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This is a company we can trust to implement secure boot properly. Oh yes indeedy. :) |
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But anyways, Secure Boot is something that lies outside of Linux, you can simply avoid it by disabling it and have not to bother about it at all. This is not true for systemd, it is a thing inside the Linux community, where one entity tries to force their standards on anyone else, regardless if that is sane and regardless the collateral damage that is done with that. If Linux has to follow the Red Hat standards in the future in opposite to being Unix like (where its roots come from and what has made it like it is), or at least let the developers/users choose their standards for themselves, it may be time to change to BSD. I hope I don't have to, I really like Slackware, but I like it because it is like it is and a change to systemd would be pretty hard for me to accept. |
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Thanks for your numerous answers. According to them, I can only draw the following conclusion. In order to remain a happy Linux sysadmin, I would only have to 1) purchase a Slackware subscription and 2) throw Lennart Poettering into the nearest active volcano. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks very much for the answer anyway! I'll do my best to get some money to you this year. It's been a tight few years in Ireland. Can't see how we can remain at the bottom for much longer. Fingers crossed! |
As far as I understand, mostly GNOME stuff is concerned by systemd. I admit I've been a GNOME user for a few years, on CentOS, RHEL and Ubuntu, but decided to abandon it after fiddling around with GNOME3 for about ten minutes (the time it took to find out that there is indeed no Power Down button). I read Patrick Volkerding's statement about GNOME exclusion, it made me laugh and I totally understand his point of view.
For the last half year or so, I've been mostly working on a heavily modified Debian stable with KDE 4.4, and everything works perfectly. Though secretly I've always been a fan of XFCE's manner of doing things, only I didn't use for day to day work because of a few - sometimes - tiny missing bits I need for work. Right now, I'm busy writing SlackBuild scripts for the latest XFCE 4.10 that looks very appealing to me, plus it seems to have all the bits (more or less) I need for productive work. But XFCE depends increasingly on GNOME libs, and that's where I'm really concerned. It would really piss me off to migrate my machines - and eventually those of my clients - to a healthy mix of Slackware and XFCE, only to see this great alternative desktop go down the drain in a future not that far away. Or am I simply too anxious about that? |
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If Debian did the opposite with BSD Kernel + GNU Linux userspace. |
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How many Slackware? |
We still have the current sources for udisks, upower, and everything else that's not in systemd and such right?
As far as going with BSD's Userspace, +1 here if it can be done. And as far as Slackware's developers... Slackware has a few developers, some official, but there's always the thousands of unofficial developers who could be enticed from other distributions to help port BSD-Userpsace to Linux. I seriously doubt all distributions out there will side with systemd if enough resistance can be met against it. |
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