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Old 09-03-2006, 09:57 PM   #1
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Symbios SYM53C8XX driver on Slackware 10.2


Recently I was trying to get a SCSI adapter with SYM53C8XX chipset running on Slackware 10.2, but no luck. I have a Kernel 2.6.16 configured specifically for including the Symbios driver Version 2, as instructed on various sites. But the driver doesn't load, it just gave a message "sym0: giving up ..." or similar in the output of dmesg.

It can't be the card, because on my Windoze box, the card works fine. I'm just wondering if it's possible to use it on Linux.

In my Slackware box, my boot drive is a SATA drive, and I'm also having USB drives using the SCSI subsystem. Does this impose any problems?
 
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Nope, that shouldn't pose any problem at all. And I've used a symbios controller
successfully with Slack from versions 8 to 10.2. Admittedly not with a 2.6 kernel,
but I can't imagine that 2.6 should be that broken.


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Old 09-04-2006, 04:43 AM   #3
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Could it be that my card is too old and that I need to use the Version 1 driver instead? The printing on the chip says it's from 1995.

Should I use Kernel 2.4 for more compatibility? I tried with a 2.4 but somehow I messed up the directory, I have to retry it sometime. I forgot to copy System.map when I installed the kernel!

So I'm currently using 2.6. (as a programmer, I would prefer this one, because it has native threads)

But yeah, the adapter is very old. I might have an even older Adaptec 2940 lying around, from 1994, with PCI 1.0, but I'm not sure if I can use it with my mainboard, which is very recent.

For Kernel 2.4, which configuration program is the best? My head almost exploded when I tried to configure 2.4 with "make xconfig".
 
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IS the device as such still being spotted? Maybe it has some kind of hardware issue.
What does lspci say?


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Old 09-04-2006, 05:39 AM   #5
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lspci perfectly lists the device. That's the weird thing about it. In dmesg output, I saw that sym0 output some PCI specs, and than said that it gave up. But it didn't say what failed.
 
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What devices are connected? Maybe you just have a termination problem,
or an issue with a SCSI-ID?


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Old 09-04-2006, 06:30 AM   #7
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Yeah, I thought of these problems as well. Indeed, the bus isn't terminated properly; I was trying to recover data from an old hard drive, I probably still have the terminators, somewhere ... On Windows, this was no problem, however.

While being on SuSE Linux 10.1 for a while, I had the strange problem, that the Linux kernel froze when nothing was connected to the adapter. But it didn't seem to load the driver either. Back then, I didn't know that the driver reported as "sym0" to the log.

Back on Slackware I noticed that it doesn't matter if anything is connected to the card. The driver exits right away.

The connected SCSI drive has ID #2, and despite the sym0 driver exits immediately after being intialized, the SCSI numbers assigned to other devices had changed; so it DID recognize the drive.

I have one SATA drive, which gets SCSI ID #1, the external drive on the Symbios card that has SCSI ID #2, and an external USB Flash card reader that gets assigned #3 when the external SCSI drive is connected, and #2 otherwise.

Another strange occurrence: Despite the mainboard having no current whatsoever, after I had plugged in the card once, the machine did have a power failure while booting and rebooted. So, could it be a PCI problem? Perhaps the old card doesn't mix well with my mainboard? This mainboard is from 2004, while the one in my Windows box is a couple of years older (from 2001).

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Oh boy :}

From that description it may be just about anything ;} from tolerances in
power to insufficient power over to timing issues on the PCI bus.

But on the subject of "old HDDs" .... you are aware that the two controllers
use a different low-level format? It's been a while since I last tried that,
maybe as long as 97, but back then I was trying to hook up an HDD I had initialised
on a Symbios, and the adaptec couldn't handle it at all. I had to low-level the
drive before I could use it with the 2940U2W.


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