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Old 02-24-2004, 06:01 PM   #1
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Swaret - is it good opponent to apt-get ?


Well, I've already found swaret and I am fascinated of it. There are lots of packages, and everything goes easy, I mean it's easier than manually downloading/upgrading packages. So, Debian is famous for it's apt-get, but you can find something similiar in Slackware. Its so beautyful, isnt it? I have always been missing something like that.
And, as well, what do you think about swaret? Do you use that? And also...is it possible, that Slackware could be the best distro? Now I am self confident saying that it's possible;-)

Slackware rulez:d
 
Old 02-24-2004, 06:04 PM   #2
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If I could get slackware working I'd be able to compare it, having used debian and various varients for a while. apt-get really is great!

cg
 
Old 02-24-2004, 06:09 PM   #3
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i felt it can find some more fans if swaret is part and parcel of slackware's own developement. currently it is not. But, yes, i enjoy using swaret, a great little apt-get clone.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 07:36 PM   #4
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I use Swaret all the time and have not any problems whatsoever. I even use it to update/patch the Kernel itself, which most people have told horror stories about how "it has meessed theirs up", etc. Maybe I have been lucky so far (knocks on wood...rubs rabbit foot...prays to the Slack Gods... )

I updated from 9.1 to current with it, KDE 3.1.4 to 3.1.5 to 3.2 with it, and I even updated Swaret to its latest version using Swaret itself, and all has gone without a hitch.

Read the HOW-TO that comes with it, and set up your swaret,config carefully and you should enjoy it.

HTH
Best regards...
 
Old 02-24-2004, 08:05 PM   #5
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Swaret and Slack rule

I use Swaret, and it works great. A great supplement to swaret is www.linuxpackages.net - it is only slack packages, but has a ton of them. (the last k3b didn't work, so I used checkinstall to make my own package from sources (probably a good idea anyway)) but almost all of them work great.

I maintain that Slackware is one of the best distros for the individual. It doesn't offer support, which large businesses want, so it lacks in that area.

Slack also has an apt-get thing, called something like slapt-get. They have a link at linuxpackages.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 09:58 PM   #6
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Slapt-get is also a very nice tool for updating your system. I switched to it about 3 months ago. No particular reason. Just tried it out and really liked it.
 
Old 02-25-2004, 05:21 PM   #7
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Who needs a packagemanager with dependency checking , I don't and I don't want it. I really dislike tools like swaret and apt-get, you'll loose control over your packages and your system.
The pkgtools packagemanager works fine, if I want to install a package it just does that without wining about libsomething-i-have-but-not-exactly-that-version.so.1.2.3.4.5a . On customized versions of any distro dependency checking does not work because it fails when you decided to install something from source instead of using a package. It just doesn't recognize that software and installs some over it or installs a different version of the same package on another location.

I tried a number of distro's with a so called good packagemanager, Debian, Gentoo, Mandrake, RedHat, etc. My opinion is that all these packagemanagers suck completely. Instead of making life easy they cause problems. Problems installing stuff, problems uninstalling stuff and in case of apt-get, I don't want to learn 100000 commands just to use something that should make life easier. It kills flexibility and for what: dependency checking which is not so hard to figure out yourself. Most of the times it is documented what other software is needed by software you want to install.

I did choose Slackware because of the packagemanager / packagemanagement without dependency checking. If they change that I will drop Slackware and choose another distro with a packagemanager without dependency checking or make my own if i can't find a good one.

So I will not use tools like slapt-get or swaret.
 
Old 02-25-2004, 06:10 PM   #8
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It's not like you have to download the dependency packages, you can just say no. And if even that's too much trouble, you can turn off dependency checking
 
Old 02-25-2004, 06:17 PM   #9
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i can't think of anything that's made linux easier for me than apt-get and swaret. i think they're great tools.
 
Old 02-25-2004, 06:49 PM   #10
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Well I just did swaret --upgrade kde and it all worked as it should except KDE doesn't work now

cg
 
Old 02-25-2004, 07:26 PM   #11
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I think the problem might be that swaret isn't smart enough to upgrade QT or arts when you told it to upgrade KDE. Should be qt-3.2.2-i486-2.

There was also a period where current had QT 3.2.3, and there had been issues with it. If you upgraded during that period you should remove 3.2.3 and install version 3.2.2
 
Old 02-25-2004, 09:02 PM   #12
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Try this:

swaret --upgrade kde/

Note the slash. This does all the packages in the kde/ directory, rather than all the ones with "kde" in the name. This way you will get the new Qt along with KDE.
 
Old 02-25-2004, 11:07 PM   #13
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There is a program - checkinstall - that you use after you compile from source. It makes it into a slack/deb/something else (cant remember) package. Best of both worlds: can remove it using swaret or pkgtool, and is compiled from source.
 
  


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