LinuxQuestions.org

LinuxQuestions.org (/questions/)
-   Slackware (https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/)
-   -   Supporting Pat (https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/supporting-pat-647078/)

hitest 06-04-2008 08:24 PM

Supporting Pat
 
My Slackware 12.1 CDs came in the mail today:-) I've always downloaded my Slackware CDs for free either through bittorrent or direct download. This time I thought I should support Patrick.
If you haven't already done so please consider giving Patrick a donation or buy his product. This will ensure that our favourite OS remains vital and strong. I know this topic has been posted before, but, I'd like to put in a plug again for Patrick:-)

Picture of Slack 12.1:-)

To donate to Patrick:

http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/s...HaqWk:mv_pc=76

Peacedog 06-04-2008 09:05 PM

I agree, I bought a t-shirt recently, it's not much, but I wanted to support Slack. I thought a t-shirt might serve two purposes, support Slack, and get some questions about Slack when I wear it.
Good luck. ;-)

slackass 06-04-2008 09:14 PM

I agree completely.

pdw_hu 06-05-2008 02:33 AM

I wonder if slackware has a paypal address? Tbh, I don't need another CD on the self as it becomes 'obsolete' 6-12 months from now but I'd gladly donate some money.

Edit: On second thought, that slackware polo shirt wasn't there the last time I saw it :)

todders 06-05-2008 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdw_hu (Post 3175257)
I wonder if slackware has a paypal address? Tbh, I don't need another CD on the self as it becomes 'obsolete' 6-12 months from now but I'd gladly donate some money.

Edit: On second thought, that slackware polo shirt wasn't there the last time I saw it :)

I have already emailed slackware about paypal and they currently do not accept it which is a shame as a quick link on their webpage and iam sure they wold get even more donations.

regards

todders

hitest 06-05-2008 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todders (Post 3175446)
I have already emailed slackware about paypal and they currently do not accept it which is a shame as a quick link on their webpage and iam sure they wold get even more donations.

regards

todders

Buying stuff from Patrick or donating to him is secure using your credit card. Patrick is running a secure site.....this is Slackware we're talking about.:cool:
I bought my Slackware CDs using my credit card with no issues. You should be fine if your Slackware box is patched and you're behind a firewall of some type.

H_TeXMeX_H 06-05-2008 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitest (Post 3175511)
Buying stuff from Patrick or donating to him is secure using your credit card. Patrick is running a secure site.....this is Slackware we're talking about.:cool:
I bought my Slackware CDs using my credit card with no issues. You should be fine if your Slackware box is patched and you're behind a firewall of some type.

I'd like to believe that, but on the internet nothing is secure, only more or less secure. The only true statement would be the internet is not secure. But, statistically, you shouldn't have any problems, especially if the credit card company covers online losses.

hitest 06-05-2008 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 3175578)
But, statistically, you shouldn't have any problems, especially if the credit card company covers online losses.

Granted. Nothing on the Internet is perfectly secure, but, if you keep your Slackware box reasonably secure (patched, scan for rootkits, use a firewall) you should be okay. I'm willing to take a mild risk to support Pat.

titopoquito 06-05-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitest (Post 3175511)
Buying stuff from Patrick or donating to him is secure using your credit card. Patrick is running a secure site.....this is Slackware we're talking about.:cool:
I bought my Slackware CDs using my credit card with no issues. You should be fine if your Slackware box is patched and you're behind a firewall of some type.

Not every one owns what the Slackware store accepts as credit card. Those cards are not that familiar in Germany as it probably is in US and Canada :(

hitest 06-05-2008 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titopoquito (Post 3175914)
Not every one owns what the Slackware store accepts as credit card. Those cards are not that familiar in Germany as it probably is in US and Canada :(

Visa and Master Card? Not accepted?

adriv 06-05-2008 04:26 PM

It's hard to make North Americans understand that in the rest of the world these credit cards are mainly for rich people. Here in Europe they are really not that popular.
I don't have a Visa or Master card.
Most people don't.

So I totally agree with todders:
Quote:

I have already emailed slackware about paypal and they currently do not accept it which is a shame as a quick link on their webpage and iam sure they wold get even more donations.

titopoquito 06-05-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitest (Post 3175919)
Visa and Master Card? Not accepted?

They are accepted at many stores but they are not in widespread use. We use something that is called "EC-card" (electronic cash) that has the same function. Sadly it's not compatible. If you want to pay with Visa or Master Card here you need an extra card that most of the times costs extra. And that has no special value here, because EC is accepted everywhere and you get it for free.

mcnalu 06-05-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Here in Europe they are really not that popular.
I don't have a Visa or Master card.
Most people don't.
In the UK Visa/Mastercard are the norm and not just for the rich, though that may change a bit with the impending credit crunch.

Accepting paypal seems like a good idea though. My own web site accepts Mastercard/visa/amex and paypal. Paypal is the cheapeast and easiest to set up.

raconteur 06-05-2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnalu (Post 3175993)
[...]Paypal is the cheapeast and easiest to set up.

I am afraid my experience differs. I don't mean to hijack the thread, it is important (imo) to help get folks to contribute to the Slackware project, but I've had nothing but trouble getting open source shopping carts to play nice with PayPal gateways.

Without getting bogged down in detail, I'm a competent (some would say brilliant) developer, but I've thrown in the towel when it comes to open source carts and PayPal. I won't name names here but I had to switch from a commercial solution because my provider had some sort of meltdown and I tried various open source options.

I finally had to settle on another commercial solution to keep the storefronts operational. Even then, I had to enlist their support folks to help get the gateway for PayPal working. One patch later and we're up and running, with caveats.

Of course, the platform for all of this is Slackware!

We have opted to periodically purchase the Slackware CDs/DVDs rather than the more economical subscription for the thread-topic reason -- supporting the Slackware project. Add my voice to the throng yet again: thank you Patrick and the rest of the team.

[stinger] 06-05-2008 05:21 PM

There is something about threads like this that make me feel a bit uncomfortable. I know that the intentions are good, but I think we need to respect those that can't afford or choose not to buy Slackware, regardless of the reason. If PV wants, he can always eliminate the free download option (or offer paypal, though I believe there is a reason behind this). Until then, everyone needs to accept that there will be people who will opt for the "free as in beer" option and that they have every right to do so. I do not believe we have the right to judge anyone for making that choice.

I know that the intent here was not to judge. It may not translate that way for all folks.

If you feel that strongly that something needs to be said, then say it in your sig.

My 2 cents. Again, no disrespect to anyone taking part in this thread.

adriv 06-05-2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnalu (Post 3175993)
In the UK Visa/Mastercard are the norm and not just for the rich, though that may change a bit with the impending credit crunch.

Perhaps I put it too strong. :)
Anyway, here in the Netherlands (and I'm quite positive that it's the same in a lot of other countries) Visa/Master cards are *not* the norm (far from it).

MS3FGX 06-05-2008 06:07 PM

Global economic issues aside, does anyone know why the DVD edition costs more than the CD version?

Naturally the cost of CD media is less than DVD, but the CD set consists of 6 discs in a special case. Certainly the cost of DVD media is less than all that? There is no way the production costs of the DVD edition are that much higher than the CD edition.

I would like to get the DVD edition this time around (I have always gotten the CD set) but I can't help but feel foolish paying $10 more for less content. Of course it is just an illusion, as I am getting the same thing simply in a different form factor, but I just can't shake the notion.

hitest 06-05-2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [stinger] (Post 3176048)
There is something about threads like this that make me feel a bit uncomfortable. I know that the intentions are good, but I think we need to respect those that can't afford or choose not to buy Slackware, regardless of the reason. If PV wants, he can always eliminate the free download option (or offer paypal, though I believe there is a reason behind this). Until then, everyone needs to accept that there will be people who will opt for the "free as in beer" option and that they have every right to do so. I do not believe we have the right to judge anyone for making that choice.

I know that the intent here was not to judge. It may not translate that way for all folks.

If you feel that strongly that something needs to be said, then say it in your sig.

My 2 cents. Again, no disrespect to anyone taking part in this thread.

Good points all:-) That is why in my initial post I said please consider making a donation. I don't have a problem with anyone downloading Slackware for free. I've downloaded Slack for free since 10.0:-) It is merely a friendly suggestion and in no way should you or anyone else feel uncomfortable about downloading Slackware. I'm sorry my post made you feel uncomfortable. I completely support the notion of free as in beer software.
I just wanted to support Pat and I wanted to share that idea with others here at LQ.

[stinger] 06-05-2008 06:46 PM

Please don't feel you need to apologize - that was not my intent. There is a difference between being uncomfortable a being offended and I was not offended. I agree that one should support whatever cause or endeavor one subscribes to in whatever way one feels they can or should. That is a personal choice however and one that should be respected, even if not agreed with. That being said, there are those who seem to forget or do not know that this is someone's living and do need a reminded. I am certain you were addressing those who could and should, but don't.

Quote:

If you feel that strongly that something needs to be said, then say it in your sig.
My statement above, in retrospect, seems harsher than I intended. I think ...

"If you feel strongly that something needs to be said in this regard, a statement in our sigs might be a nice way to remind folks."

...would be more in line with my feelings on the subject.

Cheers :D

hitest 06-05-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS3FGX (Post 3176101)
Global economic issues aside, does anyone know why the DVD edition costs more than the CD version?

Interesting:-) I have no idea why it is more costly.

Quote:

Naturally the cost of CD media is less than DVD, but the CD set consists of 6 discs in a special case. Certainly the cost of DVD media is less than all that? There is no way the production costs of the DVD edition are that much higher than the CD edition.
I love the way the CD case looks, very cool:-)

Quote:

I would like to get the DVD edition this time around (I have always gotten the CD set) but I can't help but feel foolish paying $10 more for less content. Of course it is just an illusion, as I am getting the same thing simply in a different form factor, but I just can't shake the notion.
Heh-heh, yeah, I know what you mean. There is something comforting in the six CDs.....lots of good stuff in there:-)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:25 PM.