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Originally posted by Samsara GRUB = <300K binary and config, 902K source.
Regards,
Samsara
Hey it only takes 1k over to make an extra CD
lilo 22.5.8 402K (complete) you also forgot to list the size of the dependencies for grub.
I am just set in my ways....
I just noticed that I have not put in a suggestion for 9.2 - Well I would like to see GNOME removed since it seems to be just taking up space. All of the Windowmanagers except *box and KDE. 9 of the 10 IRC applications, 5 of the 6 different email applications. 4 of the 5 text editors. Including Joes' personal EMACs compile. REMOVED. But if we did that we wuold have to call it Slackware 2.0. Just kidding.
What I would really like to see *xine* removed from the install and ogle replacing them.
AND
A STABLE VERSION OF WINE INTEGRATED INTO THE INSTALL SO THAT WHEN THE INSTALLATION IS COMPLETE YOU HAVE A WORKING WINE INSTALLATION.
I really get tired of answering WINE questions. Hey guys @ winehq . Sober up before writing the code and you will not have to rewrite it every 3 days. Or if you are sober get drunk before writing the code and you will not have to rewrite it every 3 days.
So anyway... as STABLE version of WINE integrated into the install or "optioned-in" and ogle.
Originally posted by subekk0 I just noticed that I have not put in a suggestion for 9.2 - Well I would like to see GNOME removed since it seems to be just taking up space. All of the Windowmanagers except *box and KDE. 9 of the 10 IRC applications, 5 of the 6 different email applications. 4 of the 5 text editors. Including Joes' personal EMACs compile. REMOVED. But if we did that we wuold have to call it Slackware 2.0. Just kidding.
Have you ever typed ps -A while running KDE? Can you tell what the processes are? Unix-like? I think not. And isn't Slackware supposed to be Unix-like? That is the one thing that bugs me about KDE, otherwise I think it's great. Not having proper processes is a major drawback, hence I use GNOME.
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A STABLE VERSION OF WINE INTEGRATED INTO THE INSTALL SO THAT WHEN THE INSTALLATION IS COMPLETE YOU HAVE A WORKING WINE INSTALLATION.
I really get tired of answering WINE questions. Hey guys @ winehq . Sober up before writing the code and you will not have to rewrite it every 3 days. Or if you are sober get drunk before writing the code and you will not have to rewrite it every 3 days.
If you're bent on blaming anyone, blame M$! I remember you saying you want to download iso images, i.e. from which I gather you don't buy boxed sets and probably don't donate, but you're cursing wine developers.
Originally posted by subekk0 Hey it only takes 1k over to make an extra CD
lilo 22.5.8 402K (complete) you also forgot to list the size of the dependencies for grub.
I am just set in my ways....
It depends on the size of your CD, right?
No exotic dependencies for grub that I know of, in fact:
Originally posted by Samsara Have you ever typed ps -A while running KDE? Can you tell what the processes are? Unix-like? I think not. And isn't Slackware supposed to be Unix-like? That is the one thing that bugs me about KDE, otherwise I think it's great. Not having proper processes is a major drawback, hence I use GNOME.
If you're bent on blaming anyone, blame M$! I remember you saying you want to download iso images, i.e. from which I gather you don't buy boxed sets and probably don't donate, but you're cursing wine developers.
As far as purchase box sets or donate you assumption is correct Obi-Wan. However, the 2 Redhat Enterprise AS STD 5 packs that we just purchased for our company at over $6,000 (that's $12,000) each is more than enough "donation". Now if they didn't give winehq any of that money... oh well. Also I think you read too much into the statement about WINE.. I don't use it so I am not going to pay for it. If I was going to pay for it I would purchase CrossOver or WINEX. And please don't be nieve enough to believe that neither of those distros pay no money to WINE for using their source code.
Oh and I don't really consider "Get Drunk" to be cursing.
So anyway... as STABLE version of WINE integrated into the install or "optioned-in" and ogle.
I think that the framebuffer mode in general is rather flakey. It works w/ some live CDs on my machine but always causes issues when being installed to my box. My recommendation is to definately include swaret and checkinstall with a mini-howto on using them both to manage packages on your machine. But then again those are personal preferences.
I'd really like to see some smaller things implemented, like creating the sudo group or chmod 666 /dev/hdc (cdrom) on install but I guess if I didn't know how to do those things myself I wouldn't be much of a candiate for Slack anyways
grub is tougher to config. i would like to see it as an option though. it is slowly going to completely replace lilo. all i care to see for now is the option to use grub instead of lilo, and a setup for it during the install, and ncurses setup like liloconfig. i now know lilo pretty well, but i still like having liloconfig around, for speed if nothing else.
wms is an odd thing. WM and xfce definatly need to stay. i really like that now you can install slack with no kde or gnome and still just use one cd, but you have WM and xfce.
i personally use gnome because it feels like the most advanced gui ive used. its broken all to hell and missing a lot of important things, but i like the feel of it better than windows, kde, or even osx. it works well for me. kde is much faster with 3.2, but i still don't like seeing SO MANY options. i used to use kde, and see lots of wonderful things about it, but no reason to drop gnome.
if they drop gnome there is just as much reason to drop kde. both are big and not really nessicary.
If your a newbie like i am you have to do a lot of reading and a lot of printing, and researching i've reinstalled windows 3 times now, because of problems with getting my printer to work, and security reasons. You have to really want to learn slackware to be motivated to work with the command line structure, i think its cool so i don't mind getting only 1 or 2 things done in like 12 to 14 hours i have that time to burn some people dont! I hope that this dosnt go against the whole stay as close to unix as possible slogan they have. Thats what i would like to see in 9.2! Make it easyier for people to jump in. Maybe some tutoial in the startx GUI, that can actually break down what they are looking at because we all know that if they are coming from windows that they including me are going to need some hand feeding in order to make this thing work.
This might go abit against being "simple" but allow fstab to add an entry for any win partitions existsing on the HD (although working with fstab is a good learning experience).
LOL, I can see you did not pay attention to the Slackware install menu!
Upon Initial install , the user is given a chance to add any Windows partitions!! If you don't believe me, re-install and check it out.........
Yea, I wish they would give you an option for grub as well.. I can't stand lilo for many reasons... Grub is way easy to use and understand, and is way more versatile options/capabilities wise... I never install a bootloader with slack and then just bootup with the cd and install grub on my own.... While I'm at it..... KDE really bites the big one. never have I seen such overly bloated eye candy in my life. They even have windows beat... And also.... Emacs really SUKS... VI is way better than that crap..... It's late and I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this thread...
Personally, the only thing I ever wanted to see added to Slack was the ability to compile a fresh kernel during install. Right at the point where it asks you what kernel you want to use it should also ask you if you want to compile a custom kernel, and then pop up menuconfig, let you make changes, and then sit back while it does it's stuff.
A working wine install would be nice, but seeing as how many of us need openGL support compiled into wine I don't think including it with the install would make much sense.
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