sometimes when im on XFCE my background and some menu suddenly turns to GNOME.

wakkana12 · 02-01-2010, 10:59 PM

Hi there,

the above event usually happens to me when im logged in to xfce my screen suddenly goes black for like 1 sec then my background becomes my background in gnome.. what does this mean? should i remove the gnome or there's some other options i can do to prevent this?

Someone pls help.. thanks.

dugan · 02-02-2010, 02:56 AM

Do you have gnome-settings-daemon set to run whenever xfce starts?

Old_Fogie · 02-02-2010, 02:39 PM

I wonder if you're using nautilus as a file manager in XFCE? If so, use "nautilus --help" and there you'll see that nautilus has a 'nodesktop' (or similarly worded option).

Believe it or not, nautilus *is* the gnome desktop. Just launching nautilus will make gnome take over.

HTH.

- Fogie

wakkana12 · 02-02-2010, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dugan

Do you have gnome-settings-daemon set to run whenever xfce starts?

how do i check if gnome-settings-daemon is set to run if my xfce starts?

wakkana12 · 02-02-2010, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_Fogie

I wonder if you're using nautilus as a file manager in XFCE? If so, use "nautilus --help" and there you'll see that nautilus has a 'nodesktop' (or similarly worded option).

Believe it or not, nautilus *is* the gnome desktop. Just launching nautilus will make gnome take over.

HTH.

- Fogie

ok so i've run "nautilus --no-desktop" command.. and its still changes to gnome.. why is that?

dugan · 02-03-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakkana12

how do i check if gnome-settings-daemon is set to run if my xfce starts?

You'll see it in xfce's Sessions and Startup dialog, as well as in ps output and possibly in /etc/xdg/autostart.

adamk75 · 02-03-2010, 01:39 PM

When this happens, bring up a terminal and run:

Code:

ps ax | egrep 'gnome|nautilus'

Check to see what's running.

Adam

wakkana12 · 02-03-2010, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamk75

When this happens, bring up a terminal and run:

Code:

ps ax | egrep 'gnome|nautilus'

Check to see what's running.

Adam

Code:

 3333 tty1     S      0:00 nautilus --sm-client-id 261174c20-b067-4f9f-8399-9e4c6eb2bec1 --sm-client-state-file /home/ron/.config/session-state/nautilus-1265246570.desktop
 3566 tty1     S      0:00 gnome-pty-helper
 3811 pts/0    S+     0:00 egrep gnome|nautilus

here's the result.. should i kill the process?

catkin · 02-03-2010, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakkana12

here's the result.. should i kill the process?

Better to find out why it starts and disable it there otherwise you will have to kill it every time. Is there anything suspect in Settings->"Session and Startup"->"Application Autostart"?

wakkana12 · 02-03-2010, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catkin

Better to find out why it starts and disable it there otherwise you will have to kill it every time. Is there anything suspect in Settings->"Session and Startup"->"Application Autostart"?

the only autostart are the compiz fusion-icon,hp system tray service and the xfce power management. these are the only items with check on them.

catkin · 02-03-2010, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakkana12

the only autostart are the compiz fusion-icon,hp system tray service and the xfce power management. these are the only items with check on them.

Hmm ... ? Let's see what's starting nautilus. What's the output of ps -f -H -U<your logon name>, preferably when no desktop applications are running (to keep the output short)?

wakkana12 · 02-04-2010, 12:43 AM

Code:

UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
a      29213     1  0 14:39 tty1     00:00:00 terminal
a      29214 29213  0 14:39 tty1     00:00:00   gnome-pty-helper
a      29215 29213  0 14:39 pts/0    00:00:00   bash
a      29224 29215  0 14:40 pts/0    00:00:00     ps -f -H -Uron
a      29062     1  0 14:25 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/knotify4
a      29057     1  0 14:25 ?        00:00:00 kded4
a      29053     1  0 14:25 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Running...
a      29055 29053  0 14:25 ?        00:00:00   klauncher
a      26199     1  1 12:27 ?        00:01:36 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --lo
a      26202 26199  0 12:27 ?        00:00:00   /usr/libexec/pulse/gconf-helpe
a      15581     1  0 11:29 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-computer --sp
a      15429     1  0 11:07 ?        00:00:03 /usr/libexec/notification-daemon
a      15254     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-burn --spawne
a      15235     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume
a      15231     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-hal-volume-mon
a      15218     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:01 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawn
a      15197     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/Thunar --daemon
a      15185     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec//gvfs-fuse-daemon /
a      15177     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 xfce4-power-manager
a      15175     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd
a      15171     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:02 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2
a      15170     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fusion-
a      15252 15170  4 10:51 ?        00:09:58   compiz --replace --sm-disable
a      15256 15252  0 10:51 ?        00:00:13     gtk-window-decorator --repla
a      15168     1  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:00 xfsettingsd
a      15165     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gam_server
a      15164     1  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:02 xfce4-settings-helper --display
a      15156     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xfconfd
a      15152     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --pr
a      15151     1  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax
a      15146     1  0 10:51 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent -s
a      15080     1  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:00 -bash
a      15110 15080  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:00   /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
a      15126 15110  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:00     xinit /home/ron/.xinitrc --
root     15127 15126  3 10:51 tty8     00:08:39       /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /home/
a      15138 15126  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:00       sh /home/ron/.xinitrc
a      15143 15138  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:02         xscreensaver -no-splash
a      15154 15138  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:03         /usr/bin/xfce4-session
a      15161 15154  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:31           xfce4-panel -r --sm-cl
a      15190 15161  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:03             /usr/libexec/xfce4/p
a      15195 15161  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:00             /usr/libexec/xfce4/p
a      15166 15154  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:17           nautilus --sm-client-i
a     15255 15154  0 10:51 tty1     00:00:01           xfdesktop --sm-client-

here's the out put. thanks

catkin · 02-04-2010, 12:51 AM

OK, so nautilus is being started by process 15154 which is /usr/bin/xfce4-session. That suggests your Xfce session is somehow configured to run nautilus ...

Have you already reviewed Settings->"Session and Startup"->"Advanced" to ensure that "Launch Gnome services at startup" is not selected?

wakkana12 · 02-04-2010, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catkin

OK, so nautilus is being started by process 15154 which is /usr/bin/xfce4-session. That suggests your Xfce session is somehow configured to run nautilus ...

Have you already reviewed Settings->"Session and Startup"->"Advanced" to ensure that "Launch Gnome services at startup" is not selected?

yes its not selected.. even if i kill nautilus its still on gnome.. im using pidgin does that affect to this matter?

wakkana12 · 02-04-2010, 01:12 AM

i noticed that when i kill nautilus it returns to xfce for a while then after a sec or 2 it returns to gnome..