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Old 03-20-2015, 09:26 PM   #1
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(SOLVED) Fluxbox tabbed windows problem in Current


I just got a new Zareason computer that came with Slackware on it; I updated it to Current as soon as it arrived.

I can't get tabbed windows to work in Fluxbox. In order to create tabbed windows, you middle click the titlebar of one window with the mouse wheel/button and drag it to the window that you want to tab it with.

My question is this: where should I look to fix the problem I describe below? ( I figured I was more likely to find help here than in the Desktop forum.)

The problem I'm having is that I cannot drag the window with the mouse. When I middle click a window, focus switches to another window. The scroll wheel works--I can use it to scroll through the contents of a windows, plus the tabbing worked in the computer I'm replacing (which also is running Current). It has also worked on every other Slackware computer that I've run.

I am confident that this has something to do with the mouse hardware configuration. I looked at the various setting in the KDE settings manager (Settings-->System Settings-->Window Behavior-->Titlebar Actions) and tried a few different ones, but was still unable to drag a window using the titlebar.

In case it helps, here's the output of pressing the mouse wheel/button as captured by xev.

Code:
ButtonPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x1e00001,
    root 0x9e, subw 0x1e00002, time 27306274, (37,43), root:(882,111),
    state 0x0, button 2, same_screen YES

EnterNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x1e00001,
    root 0x9e, subw 0x0, time 27306207, (37,43), root:(882,111),
    mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyInferior, same_screen YES,
    focus NO, state 512

KeymapNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
    keys:  4294967198 0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
           0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   

ButtonRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x1e00001,
    root 0x9e, subw 0x1e00002, time 27306530, (37,43), root:(882,111),
    state 0x200, button 2, same_screen YES
Web searches have turned up a number of links about Fluxbox tabbing, but little about troubleshooting it when it doesn't work.

Thanks.

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Old 03-20-2015, 10:52 PM   #2
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Just checking, but perhaps you forgot to transfer your .fluxbox/keys over to your new computer?

From /usr/share/fluxbox/keys:
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# control-click a window's titlebar and drag to attach windows
OnTitlebar Control Mouse1 :StartTabbing

# middle click on the titlebar to lower
OnTitlebar Mouse2 :Lower
So by default, ctrl+left click is used for tabbing, and middle click lowers the window and switches the window focus (which you seem to be experiencing).

The xev output looks normal.
 
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:53 PM   #3
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I would look at ~/.fluxbox/keys first and check if the lines with OnTitlebar Mouse* are properly set.
Never actually used tabbed windows, but there was something broken with the focus last time I tried current
Not sure what exactly, but I don't think it's covered in kde systemsettings.
 
Old 03-21-2015, 07:21 AM   #4
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I just got a new Zareason computer that came with Slackware on it...
Nice, did you have them install Slackware at Zareason, or...?
 
Old 03-22-2015, 08:11 PM   #5
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I ordered the computer with Slackware from Zareason. They installed it and even included a v. 14.1 DVD. That's why I settled on Zareason--they let you pick your distro. This is my third Zareason device--I been quite happy with the workmanship and the hardware.

I haven't gotten back to troubleshooting this--I'll let you know what happens when I look at it later this week.

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Old 03-23-2015, 02:49 AM   #6
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Yeah, it is Control-click drag now, not middle click drag. Also experienced it myself when I installed -current on my X220, and previous docs/guides told me that middle-click drag was StartTabbing.
 
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CTRL-click-hold-and-drag did the trick. Thanks. (Middle-click-hold-and-drag was what had always worked before for me.

Any idea why they changed it? Are three-button mice on the way out or something?
 
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:39 PM   #8
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CTRL-click-hold-and-drag did the trick. Thanks. (Middle-click-hold-and-drag was what had always worked before for me.

Any idea why they changed it? Are three-button mice on the way out or something?
I am full time Fluxbox user, but this is not a feature I often use.

When I first read this thread I tried it on my 14.1 machine and simulated-middle-click-drag worked. But I have a wireless keyboard/touchpad that I use on another 14.1 machine on the other end of my desk - and it failed, but works with USB keyboard and two-button mouse.

It works as you describe on a -current machine.

So I am guessing it has to do with encodings or communications between the various devices and the ubiquity of two-button pointing devices - probably in response to user reports.

Thanks for posting this - otherwise I would have stumbled over it at some point myself.
 
Old 03-23-2015, 08:49 PM   #9
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You are welcome. It's a really neat feature, especially if you are using a smaller monitor (in terms of pixels).

The problem computer came with 14.1 out-of-the-box.

I have seldom used the feature myself, though I have played with it a bit over the years, because I like to know how stuff works. As monitors got larger, I used it less and less.

Now, though, I have what I find a compelling reason to use it regularly on the one computer. I am using SeaMonkey mail and the SeaMonkey browser (I like the integration); with tabs, I can keep them both in one window.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 06:45 AM   #10
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CTRL-click-hold-and-drag did the trick. Thanks. (Middle-click-hold-and-drag was what had always worked before for me.

Any idea why they changed it? Are three-button mice on the way out or something?
Probably Touchscreens. They don't have a middle click.

As it happens though, even us living-in-the-past types can struggle with middle-click-drag. I use a "kensington expert mouse", which despite its name, is actually a trackball. For a right-handed person, left-click-drag is easy(bottom left: thumb), right-click-drag (bottom right: pinky) isn't quite as easy but is ok, middle-click-drag (top-left: ?) is very, very, impractical no matter how you try and hold your hand, or which digit you use to depress the button! Thankfully, middle-click drag isn't that common. Even with this design issue, I still prefer my trackball to a mouse; I just wish they'd thought about the ergonomics of the button placement a little more.

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Old 03-24-2015, 07:52 PM   #11
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Probably Touchscreens. They don't have a middle click.
Now that makes sense.

I have no use for trackballs or trackpads, but I use a trackpoint quite happily. It's a matter of taste, I guess.

I only ever met on trackpad that I thought was worth a darn, but the computer it was attached to wasn't. It was an old Winbook in the Win95 days.
 
Old 03-27-2015, 02:41 AM   #12
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FWIW KDE also has window grouping as tabs, now doing the same on my other Slackware thinkpads that I have kept KDE on.
 
  


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