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Old 03-19-2014, 09:37 AM   #106
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Yeah...am I the only one here with about a thousand floppies packed away in boxes? Found my old Word Perfect 6 set - 20+ floppies. And how about some Windows 3.11 install disks, only 6 to get Windows up and running? Oh, hey my DOS 2.11 5 1/4 install set! Yeah....I burned the good ones to .img files and threw out about 1000 floppies. Now I'm looking at a couple boxes of cassette tapes and thinking of doing the same.
Yeah good 'ol floppies! I still have a bunch as well! I still have a copy of Quick C for DOS like new in the box with the book and 5 1/4" floppies! And I have a old 386 with a 5 1/4" drive that I could fire up if needed!

I remember when all the Sierra games (Space Quest, Kings Quest) started to come on only CD and no more floppies my buddies and I were major upset with that since we didn't have CD drives yet!

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Old 03-19-2014, 10:28 AM   #107
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Yeah...am I the only one here with about a thousand floppies packed away in boxes? Found my old Word Perfect 6 set - 20+ floppies. And how about some Windows 3.11 install disks, only 6 to get Windows up and running? Oh, hey my DOS 2.11 5 1/4 install set! Yeah....I burned the good ones to .img files and threw out about 1000 floppies. Now I'm looking at a couple boxes of cassette tapes and thinking of doing the same.
wrong decision, imho. it is piece of history. when you throw it out,, you cannot get it back. cannot show it to your grandsons and tell what computers is in your young days, and so on.
in nowadays even 3.5" floppies and computers older than pentium 3 is rare, and hardly to get...
 
Old 03-19-2014, 11:12 AM   #108
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I've dumped 9-track tapes (and the tape drive that gave up the ghost) but kept the Unix source and World Data Back II tapes; Unix source just because and WDBII because it has Cold War political boundaries (long since transferred to disk, CD-ROM and DVD but what the heck).

Dumped a case or two of of DC-6xxx tape cartridges (ditto on the drive and the copies). Dumped boxes and boxes of 8" floppies (SSSD and DSDD). Dumped 5-1/4" floppies (SSSD and DSDD), dumped 3" floppies (well I still have a drive for those that works but... why? mostly just back up from Linux, one or two DOS boot disks, gag).

Dumped old Slackware release and back up CD-ROMs, kept the Slackware multi-disk jewel case for storing back ups (regret doing that now), but have kept every release since 10.x (why? basic pack rat mentality).

Tossed non-functional hard drives, tossed non-functional computers, tossed a dead lap top (we have electronics recycle here -- you'd be amazed at the amount of technology people keep in basements and barns that they finally give up on, cant count the number of rear-projection TVs I've manhandled out of pickup beds). Have a beautiful 19" flat screen monitor (that weighs a ton, has a bigger footprint than the average printer and heats a room) that I'm just loathe to toss but the thing is actually worthless when I can buy a replacement LCD or LED monitor for about $100).

I kept one full-height disk drive so I could show students what a disk drive actually looks like inside (I taught a Unix/C program at a local college for a while; great course, I learned a lot).

One of the neatest things I've ever seen is the "Bomb" at Bletchley Park. Bletchley Pakr in Buckinghamshire was Britain's main decryption establishment during World War Two. Ciphers and codes of several Axis countries, particularly the Enigma code used by German forces, were broken there (mostly by hand, but Enigma mostly by the Bomb).

When the war ended, they more or less just closed the doors and left it and a group of folks have got it pretty much working -- it was really the world's first programmable computer developed by a group of geeks led by Alan Turing.

Along with a visit to Greenwich Observatory (to see John Harrison's clocks that solved the longitude problem whirling away, restored from the observatory basement by another geek), Bletchley Park is well worth your time and effort to get there.

So, now that I think about the stuff I just tossed, all might not have been such a good idea. Hm.
 
Old 03-19-2014, 11:22 AM   #109
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Although I occasionally lament tossing out my Tandy 8088 and maybe my NexGen 586 mobo, and yes I still have hundreds of floppies and still even use some every once in awhile, some old computer gear was just so massive (tho I've never had a 5MB hard drive that required a forklift) it is pretty impractical to move around. I may cave in and toss the floppies in the next year and choose to take my grandkids to a museum since they apparently don't believe me that we walked 2 miles to school in below freezing cold, uphill both ways

Floppies messed up enough that I wasn't too awful sad with their demise although sometimes I miss knowing where in the boot sequence I was just by the sounds. I do have to wonder about the wisdom of possibly making optical drives obsolete. With all the archives there are if the drives disappear how will anyone ever read them? That isn't even considering all the work that many performed to put family photo albums on DVDs.

Back to floppies I just recently tossed my boxed collection of almost 30 1.8MB floppies for OS/2 2.1 and it was difficult. My first Slack install was from floppies but that felt different since they were just generic diskettes made from images. Also, while I recall old versions fondly, I am also keenly aware that this is largely possible because of the distance of time. If I think back clearly, I often hated messing with jumpers and repeated reboots to see if that IRQ/DMA combo would fly, especially on some sound cards.

Nowadays if I want to recall the halcyon days of floppies I just go Here for a nostalgic chuckle
 
Old 03-19-2014, 03:25 PM   #110
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Most of my floppies have gone bad and can't be read, can't even be formatted. <sigh>. And one of my linux boxes has a working 5/14 floppy drive, and a working 3 1/2 floppy drive.

CDC Hawk was the first hard drive I used. 5MB fixed platter, 5MB removable platter (or were they 10MB????). Weighed, what, about 150 pounds? When the heads crashed, we replaced them, replaced the platter, aligned them, and put it all back together again. You couldn't zip down to Fry's and buy a replacement, we had to fix them ourselves.

I'm trying to overcome my packrat mentality and just get rid of it all. I finally tossed my ISA cards. I still have my nVidia TNT2 Ultra. Dang fastest card you could get back then. Sold my Commodore 64's years ago. But after a couple of moves, hauling boxes and boxes of junk around, you just get tired of it all and the dumpster begins to look better and better....
 
Old 03-20-2014, 03:58 AM   #111
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fck!
if any else try to get over it "packrat mentality", pls let me know - maybe we can get with variant to send it all to me.
i very sadly because in about 1994 i sell my good ZS Scorpion 256k ( zx spectrum clone with 720 kb 5.25" fdd, ay-3812 sound and so on. very good machine with build-in Basic and so on. today it very hard to buy something like that - i even not see any spectrum-compatible for sell in past 10 years. also missed my 386 DX40. it have even socket for 486 upgrade. i swap it for 486 dx 100, if memory serve my well....
and AWE32, who i in that time not buy, and who is hard to get todays...

and amiga, who i want to see in years ago, but who also, got away...
and interesent also in G4 macbook - i also want to explore MAC world a bit also....

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Old 06-01-2014, 08:22 AM   #112
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread

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Yeah! the nerve of those Touch-Tone guys replacing a perfectly good, mechanical rotary dialer! If literally EVERYTHING is bloated then "bloat" as a term, ceases to be a definitive term, and ceases to have any meaning beyond some vaguely negative adjective. Then, even the word "bloat" just adds bloat to language, and we have an infinite progression, like standing between two face-to-face mirrors. Though I suspect some may enjoy that image, in all probability Trekkies prefer "infinite regress" and...SEE!?? Bloat! It's all consuming! Arrrrgghhh!

When you add "I == We" to the mix, meaninglessness simply becomes asymptotic to the point of singularity, where "Bloat=Black Hole" sucking in everything and even the Light of Reason cannot escape.
Enlightened by Reason you take literally a common sense aimed comment, try to ridicule it by reductio ad absurdum, then you think you mock me.

I couldn't find the Crux mailing list thread online to link here. Some guy posted this (resumed):

Code:
Hello,

I'm a new CRUX user, and first, i would like to thank you for making this
distribution.

I used Slackware, Gentoo and Arch in the past, but was disappointed by the
direction chosen by Arch, and the current over-complexification of most Linux
distributions.

I tried to use XFCE 4.10 from ports and while it works, it doesn't look that
good.  For instance a lot of icons are missing.  Can someone point me to the
missing package?


Thank you,
Best regards.
So, trying to make him see his contradiction I advised this guy what I usually advice here generating the same reactions I got here from fancy desktop users; troll, rude, Luddite, Mennonite, conspiracy theorist, victim of some Godwin's law effect, affected by some co-related not related wild theories, etc. Even some other "enlightened by reason" reappeared here in other thread just to call me zealot and dumb. Well, in the end the original poster on Crux list gave the thanks to someone that pointed the solution to have his pretty icons on his Xfce desktop back, that was to run:

gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache

So this was my last answer:

Code:
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:44:03AM +0200, xxx@xxx.fr wrote:
> I used Slackware, Gentoo and Arch in the past, but was disappointed by
> the direction chosen by Arch, and the current over-complexification of
> most Linux distributions.

Commands like this:

gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache

are the kind of commands that has been overpopulating shell scripting on
sysv-init on big distributions.  With the well known consequences.

For example on Slackware you'll find it in /etc/rc.d/rc.M


        Walter

I have this line in my fvwm config:

ImagePath $HOME/.icons/fvwm

I backup my fvwm config and .icons and untar in any fresh installed Unix to have my desktop ready. At the same time I prefer to use an itel i5 with led monitor to a PIV with CRT because its lower power consumption.

Real *progress* in today's world is what takes in care economy, economy is not about money but *clever use of resources*. And yes, *we* are all affected.

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