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Old 05-25-2009, 08:01 AM   #241
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oh, ok thanks anyway tho, just wanted to know what worked
 
Old 05-25-2009, 09:42 PM   #242
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Yawn ....

Pat, a 64 bit version would have been REAL news about 3 to 4 YEARS ago! However, it's better late than never. Yes, we do thank those involved in finally getting it out the door, but the whole event seems rather anti-climactic to me. Waiting on 64 bit support for the Java and Flash plug-ins for FireFox was probably a concern.

Anyhow, cheers!
 
Old 05-25-2009, 09:53 PM   #243
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Yawn ....

Pat, a 64 bit version would have been REAL news about 3 to 4 YEARS ago! However, it's better late than never. Yes, we do thank those involved in finally getting it out the door, but the whole event seems rather anti-climactic to me. Waiting on 64 bit support for the Java and Flash plug-ins for FireFox was probably a concern.

Anyhow, cheers!
I think the timing is about right IMO, if there is such a thing. It's only recently that I've considered throwing on a 64 bit version of linux as 'preferred' all things considered. It's climactic to me solely because it's Slackware which was already fast on my machine in 32 bit.
 
Old 05-25-2009, 09:59 PM   #244
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One more item: Go with a "pure" 64 bit librarian like BW64. Yes, some additional libraries are need to support 32 bit programs, but the quantity of 32 bit only programs is shrinking all the time.

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Old 05-25-2009, 10:27 PM   #245
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I think the timing is about right IMO, if there is such a thing. It's only recently that I've considered throwing on a 64 bit version of linux as 'preferred' all things considered. It's climactic to me solely because it's Slackware which was already fast on my machine in 32 bit.
It seems like many Slackware users are like monks who have taken an oath of poverty. Most of whom follow the lethargic edicts of their anointed bishop. The fact that most are using machines that run adequately with software that was delivered years ago, only speaks to the technological aptitude and intellectual currency of many users.

I have tried to keep the best machines running in my environment at all times. Consequently, I have things that some who are content with yesterday's technology, simply drool over. I guess some of you will finally have to step out of the dark ages, abandon your caves and consider a new reality.

Welcome to the future.
Shingoshi
>=(o_O)=>

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Old 05-25-2009, 10:37 PM   #246
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I guess some of you will finally have to step out of the dark ages, abandon your caves and consider a new reality.
Only if you promise to go back under your bridge...

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Welcome to the future.
Is it troll season there yet?
 
Old 05-25-2009, 10:50 PM   #247
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That dude from Oregon is an arrogant prick................
 
Old 05-25-2009, 11:20 PM   #248
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I have tried to keep the best machines running in my environment at all times
You just keep on trying son, and the next time someone stops by and drools all over your floor be carefull that you don't slip in it.......;^)

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Old 05-25-2009, 11:46 PM   #249
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It seems like many Slackware users are like monks who have taken an oath of poverty. Most of whom follow the lethargic edicts of their anointed bishop. The fact that most are using machines that run adequately with software that was delivered years ago, only speaks to the technological aptitude and intellectual currency of many users.

I have tried to keep the best machines running in my environment at all times. Consequently, I have things that some who are content with yesterday's technology, simply drool over. I guess some of you will finally have to step out of the dark ages, abandon your caves and consider a new reality.

Welcome to the future.
Shingoshi
>=(o_O)=>
I'm scratching my head trying to understand what you are trying to accomplish with your posts. I think that you should consider re-compiling your personality.
 
Old 05-25-2009, 11:49 PM   #250
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Shingosi -
Linux is about choice. Slackware is just one of many choices. I use Slackware because it makes further choices a lot easier. I don't always do things the standard Slackware way. I don't always use a slackbuild or pre-built package. Sometimes there aren't any. Slackware provides me with a sane environment to build it the way I want. I may put things in /opt for example.

My choice - my machine. Can you wrap your mind around this concept of choice? Following this thread, I see that you have made a lot of changes for multilib capability, and that's great! Others have benefited as well, and that's great also! What the hell is your beef anyway?

For me, I'm staying pure 64 bit. If I need something that ain't there, I will compile it.

Move a little farther North to Redmond if you are looking for everything in one spot. Maybe they can fill your need.

To the Slackware Team:
I am currently running Slackware64-current as of 2009-22-05. I actually re-partitioned my drive and totally started over with a new scheme. Slackware64 is now my main production machine and running perfectly. I still have a lot of work to do compiling some old favorites, but I'm just doing it as I need it. This KDE 4x is taking some time getting used to, so I haven't been in a hurry. I did switch to the classic menu, the new one was bugging the heck out of me.

The first thing I did was compile a custom kernel for my machine, which only took minutes, (I went and got a cup of coffee, then came back) then installed the nvidia amd_64 driver. Works great!
The whole system is fast, stable, and so far Slackware reliable. That's the trust I have in the Slackware Team - running -current for production. I know its user beware, but I just couldn't wait any longer.

Thanks again to all, and to all the Forum members that take time out to help others.
 
Old 05-26-2009, 01:21 AM   #251
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from now's changelog:
Code:
d/binutils-2.18.50.0.9-x86_64-2.txz: Changes to enable multilib support.
       Thanks to Fred Emmott.
d/gcc-4.3.3-x86_64-4.txz: Changes in specs file to enable multilib support.
       Thanks to Fred Emmott.
d/gcc-g++-4.3.3-x86_64-4.txz: Recompiled.
d/gcc-gfortran-4.3.3-x86_64-4.txz: Recompiled.
d/gcc-gnat-4.3.3-x86_64-4.txz: Recompiled.
d/gcc-java-4.3.3-x86_64-4.txz: Recompiled.
d/gcc-objc-4.3.3-x86_64-4.txz: Recompiled.
 
Old 05-26-2009, 01:47 AM   #252
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Originally Posted by Shingoshi View Post
It seems like many Slackware users are like monks who have taken an oath of poverty. Most of whom follow the lethargic edicts of their anointed bishop. The fact that most are using machines that run adequately with software that was delivered years ago, only speaks to the technological aptitude and intellectual currency of many users.

I have tried to keep the best machines running in my environment at all times. Consequently, I have things that some who are content with yesterday's technology, simply drool over. I guess some of you will finally have to step out of the dark ages, abandon your caves and consider a new reality.

Welcome to the future.
Shingoshi
>=(o_O)=>
Look, kid, just because you've bravely been waving the
banner of consumerism in the IT department of your mall
doesn't mean that you have the right to tell others what
they're supposed to be doing with their money, or have
the right to verbally abuse them. As far as I'm concerned
you're the retard, because you have to/choose to keep
up with the Joneses ...



Cheers,
Tink


P.S.: Btw, I've read your profile btw, I don't care whether
you're a few years older than me or whether you made that
age up, you're still acting like a kid.

Last edited by Tinkster; 05-26-2009 at 01:50 AM. Reason: added p.s.
 
Old 05-26-2009, 01:56 AM   #253
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It's actually nice for some binaries only files.
I have an Epson C1100 printer with a Linux driver provided by Avasys. It includes a 32-bits binary file that generate the code for the printer. I managed to make it work by copying manually some libs in /lib (after a "ldd" command to se what was needed. But having a properly supported system is nicer.
And having the possibility to run wine and Acrobat Reader is nice, as I have some files that I need to print regularly which are not rendered well by open-source PDF readers for some reason.
I was prepared to keep a 32-bits system to do those things (which is perfectly OK, I don't have machine with more than 4GB RAM and I don't expect much speedup from a 64bits system) but if it goes multilib, all the better.
My thanks anyway to the Slack team for this superb OS.

BTW, it could be nice to upgrade Mesa a bit. :-)
After my upgrade, compositing in KDE seemed to go haywire with my old ATI card (9200) while it worked perfectly in 32-bits. After some time recompiling KDE, Qt, etc, I suddenly realized that Mesa was in 7.0.X version.
After compiling xorg-server 1.5.3, mesa 7.4.2, the 6.12.2 version of the ATI driver and some input drivers, all was well. Pfiou!
Well, I suppose the Slack is waiting for a new Xorg official release.

Well, cheers!
 
Old 05-26-2009, 03:12 AM   #254
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Yawn ....

Pat, a 64 bit version would have been REAL news about 3 to 4 YEARS ago!
A 64 bit distro back then would have been "experimental" at best. Some critical software like Flash lacked 64 bit support 4 years ago. That's not the quality expected from Slackware. It's like the KDE 4 transition, no need to be the early bird -- those who want to see what the bleeding edge looks like can always try some other distributions.

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Old 05-26-2009, 03:52 AM   #255
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It seems like many Slackware users are like monks who have taken an oath of poverty. Most of whom follow the lethargic edicts of their anointed bishop. The fact that most are using machines that run adequately with software that was delivered years ago, only speaks to the technological aptitude and intellectual currency of many users.

I have tried to keep the best machines running in my environment at all times. Consequently, I have things that some who are content with yesterday's technology, simply drool over. I guess some of you will finally have to step out of the dark ages, abandon your caves and consider a new reality.

Welcome to the future.
Shingoshi
>=(o_O)=>
Thanks for showing so perfectly what kind of mentality is behind all those FUD posts you made the last week.

Eric
 
  


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