LinuxQuestions.org
Welcome to the most active Linux Forum on the web.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Slackware
User Name
Password
Slackware This Forum is for the discussion of Slackware Linux.

Notices

Reply
 
Search this Thread
Old 01-06-2007, 12:55 AM   #1
BootFast
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 5

Rep: Reputation: 0
Slackware vs PuppyLinux


Hi I am wondering which is best(big error to past a question, I know I know) there are a few areas that I am wondering about but the most important are:

(1)Boot Time
(2)Software support i.e the package manager
(3)ease of install
(4)hardware support, wireless cards, USB devices etc

I have noticed that Slackware seems to be more popular so it probably would be easier to get help on, but I read some ware that Puppy Linux has a 30 second boot time which is awesome. Any thoughts or suggestions on a fast booting distro?
 
Old 01-06-2007, 01:59 AM   #2
z3r0.0v3rrid3
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 29

Rep: Reputation: 15
I will be honest with you Slackware is great, it really is!

(1)Boot Time
Well by default Slackware's boot time is okay, but if you modify the scripts a little its FAST! I mean 12-15 sec boot time if you know what you are doing.


(2)Software support i.e the package manager
pkgtool is a very good software management system, it doesn't track dependentcys, but it lets you do what you want without nagging at you, or screwing something up is you install the package correctly.


(3)ease of install
Slackware is very simple to install and configure, it lets you do what you want to it without crying or not listening to your commands.


(4)hardware support, wireless cards, USB devices etc
Slackware out of the box, supports a wide range of hardware, even some wireless cards, but I will tell you know you will have to get your hands dirty (most slackers prefer this), every USB device I have used has worked under slackware, everything from keyboard and mice to media card readers to webcams. Some hardware slackware doesn't setup for you, so like I said before you will most likly need to do some work.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 02:05 AM   #3
adityavpratap
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Hyderabad, India
Distribution: Slackware 13, Ubuntu 12.04
Posts: 431

Rep: Reputation: 32
Hi z3r0.0v3rrid3,
12-15 sec. is really fast. Can you share with us what are the scripts that are to be modified and how?
 
Old 01-06-2007, 02:09 AM   #4
BootFast
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 5

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
also I was wondering why there are 6 CDs, seems like a bit much to me.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 02:13 AM   #5
z3r0.0v3rrid3
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 29

Rep: Reputation: 15
Their is a patch floating around that will make the nessary changes, it can be adapted to make what it boots more useful, it also depends on what options you have enabled in the kernel and what hardware you have, there is no "udev" support, it is achieved by using static device nodes and running some scripts in parelle, when you get a bash prompt slackware is not actually done loading it just continues loading into the background, this can break somethings like NFS or samba or anything executed by rc.local because it runs very last.

EDIT: BootFast, you only need 2 CD really, the first and second cds are the install, the 3rd cd is international support and cds 4,5,6 are the slackware books and the sourcecode.

Last edited by z3r0.0v3rrid3; 01-06-2007 at 02:14 AM.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 07:46 AM   #6
ferradura
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: PT
Distribution: CRUX & Slackware
Posts: 100

Rep: Reputation: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by BootFast
also I was wondering why there are 6 CDs, seems like a bit much to me.
It depends on what your needs are...i only use cd1, and from there i go with slackpkg and/or swaret.

The last 3 cds have the sources, so you probably won`t need them.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 10:22 AM   #7
hitest
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Prince Rupert, B.C., Canada
Distribution: Slackware, OpenBSD
Posts: 4,163

Rep: Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by ferradura
It depends on what your needs are...i only use cd1, and from there i go with slackpkg and/or swaret.

The last 3 cds have the sources, so you probably won`t need them.
If you want to install the 2.6.17.13 kernel (huge) you'll need CD #2. If you want to install the 2.6.18 kernel (testing) you will need CD #4.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 11:05 AM   #8
cwwilson721
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: In my house.
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, Slackware 13.1 64-bit
Posts: 2,649
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by z3r0.0v3rrid3
... there is no "udev" support, it is achieved by using static device nodes and running some scripts in parelle..
Yes, there is udev. But you have to use the 2.6 series kernel.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 02:19 PM   #9
MQMan
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Distribution: Slack64 13.37
Posts: 535

Rep: Reputation: 36
The comment about "no udev", was in the system that has been modified to boot quickley, not the "standard" one.

But really, how often are you booting that you need to go in and make radical changes to save a few seconds.

Cheers.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 06:00 PM   #10
jets0n
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2006
Distribution: Slackware | Ubuntu | Debian | CentOS
Posts: 34

Rep: Reputation: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by adityavpratap
Hi z3r0.0v3rrid3,
12-15 sec. is really fast. Can you share with us what are the scripts that are to be modified and how?

Most of the modding you can do is within the rc.M script (/etc/rc.d/rc.M). I usually comment out ldconfig and fc-cache and run them manually when required. Also you can comment out nearly everyhing you don't need, just be sure you know what you're doing . Also (i use a laptop) you can edit rc.pcmcia if you know what module your pcmcia card requires and comment out the ones that you don't use. In the end, you can add on top of lilo.conf (/etc/lilo.conf) file option "compact", which gives you a faster boot. Just my 2c.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 06:17 PM   #11
BootFast
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 5

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
So which of the CDs is the liveCD? or is there a slackware LiveCD?
 
Old 01-06-2007, 06:18 PM   #12
H_TeXMeX_H
Guru
 
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: $RANDOM
Distribution: slackware64
Posts: 12,928
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269Reputation: 1269
Quote:
Originally Posted by BootFast
also I was wondering why there are 6 CDs, seems like a bit much to me.
You really only need CD #1, and possibly #2 if you want to use the 2.6 kernel modules (often this means ethernet card support)
 
Old 01-06-2007, 06:29 PM   #13
Indiestory
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Distribution: OpenBSD
Posts: 164
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by BootFast
So which of the CDs is the liveCD? or is there a slackware LiveCD?
None of the slackware live cd's are live , but there is the slax project which is basically live slack.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 07:13 PM   #14
MQMan
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Distribution: Slack64 13.37
Posts: 535

Rep: Reputation: 36
You also need #2 if you want to load KDE.

Cheers.
 
Old 01-06-2007, 07:35 PM   #15
hitest
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Prince Rupert, B.C., Canada
Distribution: Slackware, OpenBSD
Posts: 4,163

Rep: Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527Reputation: 527
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H
You really only need CD #1, and possibly #2 if you want to use the 2.6 kernel modules (often this means ethernet card support)
Yep, you do need CD #2 if you want the 2.6.17.13 kernel modules. And you need CD #4 if you want the 2.6.18 kernel modules. If you're going to install a 2.6.xx kernel you will need to mount the CD and install the kernel modules and headers.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
About Slackware 9.1 boot disk?? ftp://ftp.kpn.be/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-9.1-is AL3OMDAH Slackware 4 04-18-2007 09:54 AM
No boot of PuppyLinux on USB pendrive d1s4st3r Linux - Hardware 0 07-21-2004 12:49 PM
Newer Slackware Packages on older slackware version pengStudent Slackware 2 11-12-2003 12:47 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:48 PM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration