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Old 11-03-2009, 11:11 AM   #1
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Hi Forum,

I found out this webpage, about which distro is more popular in each region...

According to it... Slackware is more popular in Bulgaria, indonesia, Brazil, Russia and Poland..

Anybody has some idea of the cause of this localization... ?

Quite different fro other distros...

In Japanese academic community, Slackware is quite popular, i can tell...

BRGDS

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Old 11-03-2009, 11:29 AM   #2
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Yeah, agree for Bulgaria, don't know how it's in the other countries. Basically, in Bulgaria Slackware's image is that it's incredibly stable, but difficult. Agree for stable, but it isn't so difficult. However, that image has made it one of the most used distros in Bulgaria.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:03 PM   #3
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Very interesting post Alex.

From what i see among friends here in India, is a fundamental need for simplicity and ease of use, which is somewhat misinterpreted by the end user.

There is also a odd vibe that i often get, amongst most people, is that Linux is for people with a high level of technical knowledge/know-how. Its complex in many ways, to even get it up and running. However, we know that's not the case. Windows still is the dominant OS here.

The typical Linux user here uses Ubuntu, Fedora or SuSE. The general idea of about Slackware (less known) is that its for Pro's who have used linux for years and know what they are doing.

I have encouraged many friends to use Linux, made them aware of the OpenSource movement. I even taught a few of my friends how to install and maintain a working linux environment. One of my friends has shown exceptional capability while learning how to use Linux (Slackware).

Just Playing My Part in Imparting Knowledge>

EDIT: I'd Like to see this site that you're referring to-.

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Old 11-03-2009, 12:04 PM   #4
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Where is that page? Is it reliable source of information? How they count their statistics?

***

I have two presumptions:

1. In the mentioned countries incomes are relatively low. Slackware works well on older machines. So maybe users from those countries run Slackware on their old machines.

2. I don't know anything about Indonesia and Brazil but Bulgaria, Russia and Poland are famous because of great hackers. So maybe hackers from those countries prefer simple and solid distributions such as Slackware.

As I stated above these are only my presumptions.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:13 PM   #5
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Hi ppl

Sorry there... :-)

My fault.. should have posted the site n the original post... :-)

Here it goes..

http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/08/21/...oss-the-globe/
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:21 PM   #6
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I demand a tiny dark blue dot over Oldham in the UK.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #7
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Running Slackware here in northern Canada. Slackware forever, baby!

Heh-heh, posting this from my company work station though (Ubuntu).
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:37 PM   #8
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Just 'converted' to Slackware about 3 months ago, running it on 3 systems now, so I want a spot of the darkest blue over Barcelona, Spain.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:48 PM   #9
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That fragment of their conclusion:

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In general, Linux seems to have a stronger popularity in the East than in the West, with some exceptions (like Cuba). This is perhaps not surprising, considering that it is free software and many of the countries where Linux is most popular have a relatively low income per capita compared to most countries in the West. Or perhaps there is just a stronger focus on free software and Open Source in these regions.
is similar to my first presumption.

Interesting article. I'll read it later. Thank you, Alexvader.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:59 PM   #10
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Where is that page? Is it reliable source of information? How they count their statistics?
...works well on older machines. So maybe users from those countries run Slackware on their old machines.
Hi w1k0,

I Partially disagree w/ your presumption, let me explain :

Just because I have a "nuclear age" computer with huge resources in CPU, RAM and Disk, it does not mean that I have to allocate most of them just to handle the OS...

Almost four years ago when I was finishing my MSc in Mechanical Engineering, I bought this laptop which shipped with Vista, it had 4gb RAM which for that time it was quite good...

Two dire surprises :

1. The machine I was supposed to use to complete my projects and simulations used about 25% of its memory to handle the eye-candy and the cpu load would just blow up at the simplest thing i did...

2. Most of the commercial engineering software licensed to University use, like Solid-Works, Ansys, Pro-Engineer, Matlab, Abaqus, etc that had worked with XP would not work with Vista...

...man, #1, and #2 did it... I flipped a Debian DVD into the CD-Rom slot and never looked back...


Currently I run two huge workstations for wngineering work in the Lab, none of them uses proprietary software, one has CaeLinux, the other has FreeBSD... both have dual quad core motherboards with 32 GB ram...

And I always try to run away from resource-hog OS policies which seem to be highly popular among Mint, Mandriva, OpenSuse, Ubuntu and even RHEL users...

I am currently trying to see if i Can build all my work apps as Slackware Packages because RAM, HDD and ( my personal feeling here ) execution times are smaller in Slackware...

...My point is : PPL can have really BIG machines, that does not mean they jeopardize available resources...

IMHO even Russian Mandriva users would benefit in shifting from their bloated Mandriva 2009 free to Slackware64 13 but then again.. this is just MY opinion, I do not care much w/ eye-candy... :-)

BRGDS

Alex

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:07 PM   #11
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Where is that page? Is it reliable source of information? How they count their statistics?

***

I have two presumptions:

1. In the mentioned countries incomes are relatively low. Slackware works well on older machines. So maybe users from those countries run Slackware on their old machines.

2. I don't know anything about Indonesia and Brazil but Bulgaria, Russia and Poland are famous because of great hackers. So maybe hackers from those countries prefer simple and solid distributions such as Slackware.

As I stated above these are only my presumptions.
Yeah, but in Bulgaria there are also a lot of wannabe hackers, which also use Slackware no matter if they find it ok or they have problems with it. It's just a delusion that if you run slackware you'll rule the world. Since I live in Bulgaria, the most frequent question I get from strangers in Skype is "how do I become a hacker", and then I first explain to them that there's no magical way, or make fun out of them, or swear at them (which Bulgarian is very good for), depending on my mood. In the forums, they tell them "Install Slackware GNU/Linux"...

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:11 PM   #12
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Couldn't agree with you more Alex about Slackware having a better performance then most of the distro's (all the ones I had running). Before I started out using Linux in general as desktop system I only knew Linux as server OS, mainly Debian.

My workstations always had Windoze, I've had every version of MS. Switching desktop OS was a big step for me, some months ago, and I'm glad to say, I'm NEVER going back. Started out with Ubuntu and the likes, Debian, DreamLinux, LinuxMint etc..... until I ended up with Slackware and in my humble opinion, Slackware gives me the best on all systems.

On older or very recent hardware, best results I get with this great distro that is Slackware.

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:12 PM   #13
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It's quite interesting, and it seems to be correct, or at least believable.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:32 PM   #14
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Hi there.

when I was born, my motherland was called USSR. All over the world we were called Russians.

Something has changed during the period while I was growing up. Someone decided that we have to be a separate country and we should be called Ukraine... which in our language sound like "outlying districts". I remember that historically there is no difference between Russia and Ukraine... but more than 100 years ago someone decided to defraud, and created something like a separate Ukrainian language, history and culture. Everything here actually comes from Russia. Does one like it or not. And actually I feel like being Russian. And Russian is my first language. English is second one. Dutch is third one. And yes, I can read, understand and even speak some Ukrainian. So today the place where I live - Odessa, should be called Ukraine.

Hi there from Ukraine!

PS sorry for being a little bit off-topic.

greetings,
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:51 PM   #15
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Hi Dolphin77

It is allright... :-)

I just think that ppl all over the world should fight to maintain its ethnic and cultural integrity, regardless of extraneous interests, that does not necessarily mean colliding with the cultural values of others... simply preserving their own values...

The western powers never succeeded in doing to Japan or to China what they did to Africa, because we have strong and antique culture...

... and culture is one of the stongest links that forms a Nation...

...Cossacks from Ukraine were well known for being relentless Warriors--- :-)

Banzai Ukraina... :-)


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