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astrogeek 03-21-2014 05:26 PM

Slackware-Ubuntu?
 
Ubuntu now has localized Chinese version, also billed as more secure.

But I see no less than four Slackware icons in the promo image!

No real point to make - just interesting how so little thought went into the promo image, which is obviously NOT a screenshot of the actual distro...

Another interesting article on the same distro, from a different perspective, which mentions neither Linux nor Ubuntu... and hiliraous when you read the source and the conclusions drawn, i.e.

Quote:

"under development since 2001"

"disclosed to Congress during recent hearings which included new details on how China's government is preparing to wage cyberwarfare with the United States"

"significant because it has "hardened" key Chinese servers"

"This action also made our offensive cybercapabilities ineffective against them, given the cyberweapons were designed to be used against Linux, UNIX and Windows"

Read more at: http://phys.org/news161355225.html#jCp

"In the cyberarena, China is playing chess while we're playing checkers"
I don't think "our" team is playing with a full deck...

Didier Spaier 03-21-2014 06:09 PM

For your information, Slackware installer and tools are being translated to Chinese through the Slint project. It just began but you can already see Slint's Changelog in Chinese ;)

astrogeek 03-21-2014 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 5138964)
For your information, Slackware installer and tools are being translated to Chinese through the Slint project. It just began but you can already see Slint's Changelog in Chinese ;)

Slackware, Cantonese edition? ;)

Yes, and while you are here let me say thanks for your part in the translation project(s)! I follow them here but have not had anything to contribute yet.

But my point here, if there was a point, is that Ubuntu is using Slackware graphics to promote their new localized Chinese variant, which has been "disclosed" in US congressional hearings by a "security expert" as some sort of secret weapon, impervious to US spying methods and "hardened"... even though you can get it by clicking the "download" button on the Ubuntu website...

I almost wish one of the looneys would go ahead and use the nukes so that we can get on with the business of building a world in which sane and intelligent entities can exist, whatever species they turn out to be, and no matter what language they communicate with!

Richard Cranium 03-21-2014 09:21 PM

Frankly, I'm not sure what those icons were supposed to mean.

There's Slackware, Suse, Fedora, Debian, Arch, Gnome, Gentoo, and a couple of others that I don't know.

astrogeek 03-21-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Cranium (Post 5139061)
Frankly, I'm not sure what those icons were supposed to mean.

There's Slackware, Suse, Fedora, Debian, Arch, Gnome, Gentoo, and a couple of others that I don't know.

Yea, it is really odd. As if Ford rolled out their new model with Chevrolet themed accessories, Dodge hub caps and a Honda hood ornament.

I am sure that who ever made the graphic was clueless as to what they were from, as were the web page designers and apparently everyone else in that particular food chain!

JWJones 03-21-2014 10:17 PM

It just looks like the distro icons that are available in the faenza-icon set, to me. Why are they on an Ubuntu-Chinese "screenshot?" No idea.

kikinovak 03-22-2014 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Cranium (Post 5139061)
Frankly, I'm not sure what those icons were supposed to mean.

There's Slackware, Suse, Fedora, Debian, Arch, Gnome, Gentoo, and a couple of others that I don't know.

These are all the 'start-here' and 'distributor-logo' icons from the Faenza icon theme. I happen to know this because I tweaked the package to default to the Slackware logo instead of Ubuntu in Xfce's application menu.

http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/M...eme.SlackBuild

I'd humbly suggest to the folks in China to spend less time bruteforcing my servers and more time to put together a coherent desktop client.

Didier Spaier 03-22-2014 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrogeek (Post 5138969)
Yes, and while you are here let me say thanks for your part in the translation project(s)! I follow them here but have not had anything to contribute yet.

Well, anyone can help just trying one of the polyglot installers in http://slint.fr/testing/ as they also speak English ;) See this post for a short how-to. This shouldn't take more than 15 minutes: checking that the "setup" menu is properly displayed is enough as I just need to make sure that displaying installer's text in an FbTerm instead of a plain Linux console works properly with as many different hardwares as possible ; no need to format a partition, let alone go through a full installation.

Philip Lacroix 03-22-2014 07:53 AM

Great job, Didier!

Quote:

Coleman told the Times that Kylin has been under development since 2001 and the first Chinese computers to use it are government and military servers that were converted beginning in 2007.
(Same source as in OP)

[sarcasm ON]
Whoa, that's frightening, but actually Mr Coleman forgot to disclose the potential highest risk represented by coffee machines secretely operated in Chinese government and military offices. Oh, and by "woks" as well: the "enemy" is certainly thinking about using them in an unconventional way. But hopefully there are enough Ne$pressos and polyedrical M$ things out there in order to counterbalance the threat. And such a heretical display of foreign icons is certainly the result of some Western counter-intelligence action.

[edit]Perhaps a brand-new and target-focused Dr0neOS is already being developed somewhere in a secret lab. "W4rf4re Edition" will be used to fight Kylin and other evil free OSs, while "PR Home|<ill Edition" will be sold to Chinese, Yemeni, Afghani, Pakistani and Somali civilians as the cool, sysadmin-free OS.[/edit]
[sarcasm OFF]


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