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Old 07-13-2012, 11:42 AM   #46
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I've run Arch on several occasions, it is absolutely bleeding edge and has an amazing package manager. It does require more tinkering than Slackware and breakage does happen. I would recommend Arch as an educational experience in a VM.
Arch is not for me in that case since I am more conservative and not looking to tinker too much. At least Redhat is like an industry standard these days so wether its good or not is at times irrelevant and you end up facing the beast in the Linux world. If it were my choice I would force feed Slackware to everyone... But then I would be a dictator LOL
But imagine if Slackware had the financial backing that Redhat did... It would be an amazing Distro.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 11:48 AM   #47
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But imagine if Slackware had the financial backing that Redhat did... It would be an amazing Distro.
Et si ma tante en avait, je l'appellerais mon oncle.

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Old 07-13-2012, 11:48 AM   #48
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I agree with dfwrider. Just search around the forums for RHEL and you'll see that it is true. Although RHEL is very stable and tested, the people you work for will want you to include new software ... and that's where the problems start. Lots of workarounds and hacks will be needed and the point of using RHEL will be missed. Or maybe there is no point in using RHEL at all...

Also, if Slackware had the financial backing of Redhat it would be RHEL.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 11:53 AM   #49
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Also, if Slackware had the financial backing of Redhat it would be RHEL.
I think I agree. Man this Capitalist system is not working in our favor is it? LOL... But let me not talk about politics here that will really get me in trouble LOL
 
Old 07-13-2012, 11:56 AM   #50
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Et si ma tante en avait, je l'appellerais mon oncle.
We say the same in Oldham.
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

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Old 07-13-2012, 12:12 PM   #51
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Perhaps some people are much complex to use Slackware, an amazing distro. Thanks crew, for making Slack so different than that prominent North American Enterprise Linux.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 01:38 PM   #52
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OMG brianL agrees with me :)

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Yes, I'm inclined to agree with honeybadger & ruario.
brianL is one of my favourate posters. I think it is a big deal when he agrees with me .
@Mercury305 - not that we do not discuss politics. We just do not discuss this in forums (I believe) simply because it does not do anyone anyone any good. But you can always post your say in the blogs.

(sorry if this comes as a double post - my browser is a bit werid right now )

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Old 07-13-2012, 02:03 PM   #53
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OMG!!! brianL is blushing...
 
Old 07-13-2012, 02:21 PM   #54
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This discussion seems to occur again and again. A lot of people seem to forget or are unaware that in Linux virtually all configuration is by simple text files, and many things can be easily changed by simple changing a line or two of text. I find it hilarious that someone would take the trouble to install a completely different distribution because they were unable to edit a configuration file to, for example, enable root logins. Or install a different desktop environment, etc. Just because a distribution is designed to be accessible for new or inexperienced users, does not mean it can't be used by experts as well. On the other hand, "expert" distributions may not be accessible at all for new users, so they should not be recommended as such. My 5 year old had no trouble using Ubuntu, she quickly figured out how to work the icons and menus, she can even log in and out and shut down the system by herself. On the other hand, in the terminal, she's not so good. Distributions like Ubuntu and Mageia disable root logins to protect the system, not to make life hard for experts. An expert would know how to either enable it or accomplish what they're trying to do without needing a root login. But a neophyte with a root login is a disaster waiting to happen, so that's why it's not there. You wouldn't give a kid a slingshot in a china shop, why would you give a novice a root login?

I've come back to Ubuntu/Mint again and again, simply because they work. I don't have time to spend hours, days or weeks trying to get simple things to work that simply should work, but don't, because usability is not on the to-do list of whoever compiled that particular distro. It might well be fun to tinker with distros like Slackware, Arch, or Debian, if you can actually get them to install...

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Old 07-13-2012, 03:08 PM   #55
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This discussion seems to occur again and again. A lot of people seem to forget or are unaware that in Linux virtually all configuration is by simple text files, and many things can be easily changed by simple changing a line or two of text. I find it hilarious that someone would take the trouble to install a completely different distribution because they were unable to edit a configuration file to, for example, enable root logins. Or install a different desktop environment, etc. Just because a distribution is designed to be accessible for new or inexperienced users, does not mean it can't be used by experts as well. On the other hand, "expert" distributions may not be accessible at all for new users, so they should not be recommended as such. My 5 year old had no trouble using Ubuntu, she quickly figured out how to work the icons and menus, she can even log in and out and shut down the system by herself. On the other hand, in the terminal, she's not so good. Distributions like Ubuntu and Mageia disable root logins to protect the system, not to make life hard for experts. An expert would know how to either enable it or accomplish what they're trying to do without needing a root login. But a neophyte with a root login is a disaster waiting to happen, so that's why it's not there. You wouldn't give a kid a slingshot in a china shop, why would you give a novice a root login?

I've come back to Ubuntu/Mint again and again, simply because they work. I don't have time to spend hours, days or weeks trying to get simple things to work that simply should work, but don't, because usability is not on the to-do list of whoever compiled that particular distro. It might well be fun to tinker with distros like Slackware, Arch, or Debian, if you can actually get them to install...
Ubuntu's file system is a mess. Have you seen how many things are linked at what not. Its just too confusing. Sure to the end user its point and click simple... But for administration Slack is so much easier. I am sure there are plenty of other reasons why Ubuntu is not meant for administration. Its meant for desktop use so that your kid can point and click and download apps as you said. Thats why I am stuck using 3 Os's Windows => Desktop (until ubuntu gets better), Slackware => Simple Administration and Redhat => To get a damn job. LOL

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Old 07-13-2012, 03:25 PM   #56
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I guess I value my time... Something that happens when you get older...

Again, no offence but if you valued your time, you wouldn't waste it on threads like that.

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I just want to get to the point... Thats all.
Good. Please do.


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But if you can't answer my question on "simplicity betwen Redhat and Slackware" then I can understand and move on to find out my self by trying both and wasting more time...
Bingo. Some people like Red Hat, while others like Slackware. Nobody is going to make choices for you. You need to try them both and see which one you're more comfortable with. You'll see that next time somebody asks an "apples vs pears" type of question, you're most likely to tell them to try both and see for themselves.

Case closed.
 
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:04 PM   #57
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Again, no offence but if you valued your time, you wouldn't waste it on threads like that.



Good. Please do.




Bingo. Some people like Red Hat, while others like Slackware. Nobody is going to make choices for you. You need to try them both and see which one you're more comfortable with. You'll see that next time somebody asks an "apples vs pears" type of question, you're most likely to tell them to try both and see for themselves.

Case closed.
Again... why we attacking me personally for my questions? lol this is just getting too funny... if u dont want to talk about which distro is better why respond?... waste of time if u ask me. It just reflects your insecurity thats all. its like talking about your favorite car? whats wrong with getting info on what is your favorite car? I like mines because it saves gas money... You prefer yours because its convertable? Whats the big deal LOL you guys are funny...
 
Old 07-13-2012, 04:18 PM   #58
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Whose insecurity? ROFTLSHMSFOAIDMT

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Old 07-13-2012, 04:23 PM   #59
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lol this is just getting too funny...
No, it's getting extremely boring.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 04:24 PM   #60
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Whose insecurity? ROFL
I don't know you seem to FOCUS more on ME as opposed to the differences of Slackware or Redhat... you should tell me. Perhaps you are trying to look for my insecurities and can spot them better then I can? Man if I were at least someone important I would actually be annoyed. All that attention for me? Wow! I feel special. Thanks guys!...

But on the real... wouldnt it be better to just ignore me or to just answer my questions? Even if you don't like my questions just IGNORE me... that will give me less attention

Maybe if you don't give me any attention at all instead of smart remarks about who i am... I might just go away and disappear. That way yo won't deal with me again.

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