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Isle 03-03-2006 01:36 PM

Slackware Software Series
 
Hi to all, I am new in Slackware, as I have used SuSE till now.

I read the slackbook, but I have some questions:

1)If I dont put N, will I be able to connect to the internet?Is N essential for internet connection?
I dont want a bunch of daemons I dont need, installed, for security reasons.:p

2)If I dont put X, will I be able to use KDE?

3)Are the BSD console games good enough to get into?

4)What exactly is AP?Is it the shell commands, like cd, ls?

tangle 03-03-2006 02:30 PM

When I install Slackware, I use the expert mode. It is not complicated and lets you choose the packages you want. So if you do not want Apache, just uncheck it.

You do need X to run KDE. I forget what is in the N section, so I am not sure if you could leave that unchecked.

mdarby 03-03-2006 02:36 PM

1. Not all are necessary, but I'd include at least dhcp, dhcpcd, and tcpip.
2. Nope. KDE runs on top of X.
3. If you like console games, sure.
4. AP has some necessary packages. Shell commands are part of your shell (ie, Bash, xsh, korn)

Anonymo 03-03-2006 02:48 PM

Messed up this post :(

Anonymo 03-03-2006 02:58 PM

Here are my barebasics

aaa_base-10.1.0-noarch-2
aaa_elflibs-10.1.0-i486-1
bash-3.0-i486-2
bc-1.06-i386-2
bin-9.2.0-i486-2
binutils-2.15.92.0.2-i486-2
bzip2-1.0.2-i486-5
coreutils-5.2.1-i486-1
cxxlibs-5.0.6-i486-1
devs-2.3.1-noarch-21
dhcpcd-1.3.22pl4-i386-1
diffutils-2.8.1-i386-1
e2fsprogs-1.35-i486-1
etc-5.1-noarch-9
findutils-4.1.7-i386-1
gawk-3.1.4-i486-1
gcc-3.3.4-i486-1
gcc-g++-3.3.4-i486-1
gettext-0.14.1-i486-1
glibc-2.3.4-i486-1
glibc-solibs-2.3.4-i486-1
glibc-zoneinfo-2.3.4-noarch-1
grep-2.5-i386-2
groff-1.17.2-i386-3
gzip-1.3.3-i386-2
kbd-1.12-i486-2
lilo-22.5.9-i486-2
logrotate-3.6.8-i486-1
make-3.80-i386-1
man-1.5m2-i486-1
man-pages-1.64-noarch-1
module-init-tools-3.1-i486-1
ncurses-5.4-i486-2
pkgtools-10.1.0-i486-4
procps-3.2.3-i486-1
sed-4.0.9-i486-2
shadow-4.0.3-i486-11
slocate-2.7-i486-3
sysklogd-1.4.1-i486-9
sysvinit-2.84-i486-51
tar-1.15.1-i486-1
tcpip-0.17-i486-31
util-linux-2.12p-i486-1

titopoquito 03-03-2006 03:02 PM

The installation process includes a dialog where you can choose which daemons you want to be automatically run. I struggled with expert modus because I chose not to install some packages and afterwards was not able to compile applications from source because some libs were missing.
I would go for the "full install" option and deselect the daemons I don't need later during installation.

cwwilson721 03-03-2006 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titopoquito
The installation process includes a dialog where you can choose which daemons you want to be automatically run. I struggled with expert modus because I chose not to install some packages and afterwards was not able to compile applications from source because some libs were missing.
I would go for the "full install" option and deselect the daemons I don't need later during installation.

VERY good advice.

The major advantadge to this is you can run 'pkgtool' later and uninstall things you never use. Best to do a full install for your first shot (If you have the HDD space, about three gigs), it will help you compile/run alot more programs.

phil.d.g 03-03-2006 04:41 PM

The other advantage to the full install is that you can uninstall only a few packages at a time that you think you don't need and see if that breaks your system over the next few days.

Then, when your computer breaks upon boot you have only 3 or so packages to reinstall, and not have to sift through a list of 50 packages to find the one you shouldn't have uninstalled.

Hope that makes sense!

PS, because I'm awkward, lazy, impatient, etc I do the expert install and deslecting stuff I don't need, rather than wait for 3 gigs of software to install, then wait for all the packages I don't want to uninstall

cwwilson721 03-03-2006 04:51 PM

I can see that,(And do that myself), but being new to Slackware, it maybe better to install everything.

willysr 03-03-2006 08:47 PM

if you are familiar with other distro, perhaps you can use the expert mode, and choose which packages should be installed in your system. It will consume more time at selecting the packages, but at install time, it will take less time, plus you won't have to wait to long for the system to boot (especially when you install all the daemon services)

statguy 03-04-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titopoquito
The installation process includes a dialog where you can choose which daemons you want to be automatically run. I struggled with expert modus because I chose not to install some packages and afterwards was not able to compile applications from source because some libs were missing.
I would go for the "full install" option and deselect the daemons I don't need later during installation.

One thing I got caught by on my first install, which was a full install was printing. I wanted to use CUPS and it was installed, but so was LPRNG. Since it was installed after CUPS, the version of lp was not the cups version. I had to remove both and re-install CUPS. I don't know if there are other packages like that (I have not encountered anything "broken" in a similar way).

titopoquito 03-05-2006 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by statguy
One thing I got caught by on my first install, which was a full install was printing. I wanted to use CUPS and it was installed, but so was LPRNG..

You won't have to take care about this any longer, since LPRNG is in /pasture now since Slackware 10.1. A full install won't break CUPS.

statguy 03-05-2006 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titopoquito
You won't have to take care about this any longer, since LPRNG is in /pasture now since Slackware 10.1. A full install won't break CUPS.

That's good to know. My last full install was 10.0.

jimX86 03-07-2006 12:39 PM

The problem with "expert" mode is that it won't force you to install required packages. Why not use the "newbie" install? That will install the required packages from every Package Series that you select. (I would be careful about omitting any of the Package Series, although I guess you could do without E,F and Y if you don't want them.)

Also, you could browse thru the tagfiles on the install CD first, and look at the "packages.txt" file. That way you'll know what you want to do before you start the installation.


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