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08-01-2009, 04:57 AM
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#106
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2009
Location: Bucharest
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tallship
Give DragonFly a try, if for no other reason than for the HAMMER FS, which is totally bitchen!
The one thing that really bothered me for a while was the 'non-trivial' procedure I had to go through to run XFS on Slack. I never liked Ext2 (and especially not Ext3 - why make a clunky thing clunkier?), but for years it was all we had. I also like ReiserFS on Linux, but I've never had a prob w/SGI's XFS.
What would be kewl is HAMMER on Slack 
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XFS has served my purposes well for big files (>500MB), but I will give DragonFly a bloody try, out of curiosity. ReiserFS on the other hand is better optimized for small files (<5MB).
As far as ExtFS is concerned, I don't really think that it's that bad of a filesystem - it's well tested, and obviously the FS of choice on Linux.
I always use Ext3/4 for the root partition, for a very simple fact: if you mess around with your /etc/fstab and for some reason the system doesn´t boot anymore, you have to use some Live CD in order to amend the config files you've been playing with.
Well, if the root filesystem uses Reiser, JFS or XFS, you won't be able to mount those partitions from a Live CD to /mnt or whatever in order to fix the problem - at least I couldn't manage (similar experiences on the web).
That's a very basic reason why one should stick to ExtFS on Linux, at least for the / partition.
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08-01-2009, 05:23 AM
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#107
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2009
Location: Bucharest
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tallship
Slackware is kind of a bitch to deploy across a desktop environment compared to a couple of other distros, and flame me people if you like, but I still recommennd mACROSfOT on the corporate desktop almost unequivicably.
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It really comes down to what you need it for. We don't have a proper Visio clone in OpenOffice, or something similar to QuickBooks (well, there's efforts like the Dia or GNUCash projects), so that might be one reason to stick with it. (Wikipedia turned to Ubuntu for their servers not long ago, but they still use a Windows machine for financial stuff).
On the other hand, Mac OS X is also a great platform as a desktop. It is true UNIX under the hood (Mach & BSD foundation) and, as Bill Joy stated in an interview, it is rock solid and beautifully designed. Mostly used in editing (text, video, audio - publishing houses, recording studios etc.)
Windows 7 is not that bad either, if you think about it, and yet I for one run almost exclusively Linux on my machines. To quote Bill Joy again, Windows is of no technical interest to me. They took a system designed for desktop use in an isolated environment and put it on the web, without thinking about evildoers, as the former US president would say.
(Well, they're trying to come to terms with all of that stuff now, but it's mostly patchwork anyway. Once you start on the wrong foot, it's pretty darn difficult going back and fixing some of the earlier, low-level, design mistakes.)
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08-06-2009, 06:12 AM
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#108
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Member
Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Rhode Island, USA
Distribution: Slackware12.2 & Slackware64-13
Posts: 241
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Lets get this thread back on topic, RC2! Release is near.
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Hi folks! We're going to call this set of updates RC2. There are still
README files to be handled (that's the nature of documentation, I guess), as
well as some other things remaining on the TODO list, but X seems pretty
stable now, and it seems like a release soon would be in order so that we
can march right back into development territory with -current again soon. :-)
Enjoy, and let us know about any problems you run into!
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08-06-2009, 06:20 AM
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#109
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: London
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 5,087
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...and it seems like a release soon would be in order ...
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But how soon is soon? Seriously, that's cruel. Do you guys think it's going to be released
in August?
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08-06-2009, 08:07 AM
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#110
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Senior Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Pisa, Italy
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 1,933
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only pat knows, and I trust him: when he will think it's ready it will be released
dates don't matter much for me: I started installing my servers with 64-current since some weeks already, for the services I use it it's already rock solid.
Last edited by ponce; 08-06-2009 at 08:09 AM.
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08-06-2009, 09:27 AM
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#111
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Member
Registered: Apr 2008
Location: China, Beijing
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sycamorex
But how soon is soon? Seriously, that's cruel. Do you guys think it's going to be released
in August?
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My guess is as soon as the docs are ready. The sooner 13.0 is released, the sooner KDE4.3 would be in -current ;D
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08-06-2009, 05:58 PM
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#112
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Member
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Palermo, Italy
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poncez
only pat knows, and I trust him: when he will think it's ready it will be released
dates don't matter much for me: I started installing my servers with 64-current since some weeks already, for the services I use it it's already rock solid.
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QUOTO! Oh, well, QUOTE!
Only Pat knows when... I trust him, too, he always makes the right choice, the release date this time should be later than the other versions for(for me) two new components:
-Slackware64
-New X
Now, thank to rworkman X got stabler, slackware64 is very stable and works perfectly(even better than the 32bit version...Obviously!), I'm gonna install it as soon as possible  We're on RC2 version, slackware 13.0 is near!
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08-07-2009, 08:19 PM
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#113
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Guru
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: underground
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 7,594
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http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...24#post3631024
The above link is where I had posted about `kdesu konqueror &` in Slack64-current not working, and being really tricky to get working.
I *just* upgraded to RC2 via rsync, and the first thing I checked after reinstalling the new nvidia driver and logging in, was `kdesu` -- I am happy to report that it works as expected.
Sasha!
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08-08-2009, 12:16 AM
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#114
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Registered: Jul 2009
Location: Montreal
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 35
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I'm using slackware64-curent. After the latest updates, glxgears seems to be broken.
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ldd /urs/bin/glxgear
linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff58dff000)
libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libglut.so.3 (0x00007ff6ed500000)
libGLEW.so.1.5 => not found
libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libGLU.so.1 (0x00007ff6ed28f000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 (0x00007ff6ed00e000)
libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007ff6ecd89000)
libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007ff6eca19000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXmu.so.6 (0x00007ff6ec800000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXt.so.6 (0x00007ff6ec59d000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x00007ff6ec264000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libSM.so.6 (0x00007ff6ec05b000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libICE.so.6 (0x00007ff6ebe40000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXi.so.6 (0x00007ff6ebc36000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007ff6eb92f000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007ff6eb718000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x00007ff6eb506000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x00007ff6eb301000)
libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007ff6eb0ff000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007ff6eaefa000)
libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libdrm.so.2 (0x00007ff6eacf0000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007ff6eaad4000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007ff6ea8d0000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007ff6ed74f000)
libuuid.so.1 => /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007ff6ea6cd000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007ff6ea4b2000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x00007ff6ea2b0000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007ff6ea0ab000)
librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1 (0x00007ff6e9ea3000)
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I suspect the problem occur after the mesa-7.5-x86_64-1 package upgrade
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08-08-2009, 02:46 AM
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#115
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Senior Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Pisa, Italy
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 1,933
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it has been added glew as a dependency of mesa, as for changelog.
if you use slackpkg, use
Code:
slackpkg install-new
to sync with added packages
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08-08-2009, 06:32 AM
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#116
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Guru
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: underground
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 7,594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GrapefruiTgirl
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...24#post3631024
The above link is where I had posted about `kdesu konqueror &` in Slack64-current not working, and being really tricky to get working.
I *just* upgraded to RC2 via rsync, and the first thing I checked after reinstalling the new nvidia driver and logging in, was `kdesu` -- I am happy to report that it works as expected.
Sasha!
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UPDATE: Unfortunately, I must retract that post. I booted up this morning, and it's back -- kdesu doesn't work (no, it isn't only konqueror, it's ANYTHING kdesu) but over on the post I linked to, I'll try the 'strace' suggestion and post results.
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08-08-2009, 06:40 AM
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#117
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Senior Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Pisa, Italy
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 1,933
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it works for me (kernel 2.6.30-zen3), tried konqueror, dolphin and xterm.
I know there's some debate about newer 2.6.31-rc kernels breaking kdesu on lkml, dunno if related.
EDIT: reading the other topic I've seen you're running 2.6.30.x? have you tried with stock huge?
Last edited by ponce; 08-08-2009 at 06:46 AM.
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08-08-2009, 07:30 AM
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#118
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Guru
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: underground
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 7,594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poncez
it works for me (kernel 2.6.30-zen3), tried konqueror, dolphin and xterm.
I know there's some debate about newer 2.6.31-rc kernels breaking kdesu on lkml, dunno if related.
EDIT: reading the other topic I've seen you're running 2.6.30.x? have you tried with stock huge?
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No, haven't tried stock huge kernel. Haven't run that since I installed. Currently running 2.6.30.2, but based on the strace output HERE it doesn't look like a kernel issue (to my untrained eye..)
Sasha
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08-08-2009, 08:27 AM
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#119
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Member
Registered: Apr 2008
Location: China, Beijing
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 409
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kdesu has no problem with the stock generic kernel
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08-08-2009, 08:32 AM
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#120
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Guru
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: underground
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 7,594
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Phooooey! Heh, ok, I'll try the stock kernel today  and post results.
Sasha
EDIT: As of 11 Aug 2009 I still have not tried a stock kernel.
Last edited by GrapefruiTgirl; 08-11-2009 at 11:47 AM.
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