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View Poll Results: How do you print ?
PDQ 0 0%
LPD 7 29.17%
GPR (GUI printing tool) 0 0%
XPP (GUI printing tool) 0 0%
XPDQ (GUI printing tool) 0 0%
CUPS 17 70.83%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-03-2003, 08:22 AM   #1
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Slackware Printing poll


Still trying to configure my printer(epson stylus color 640) under slackware , so i decided to put up a poll about what printing tools you folks use and also your experience on how you set it up is welcome . I looked already at several threads on this site and found lots of useful information but there are so many different stuff available... well hope you understand and thank you very much for your cooperation .
 
Old 03-03-2003, 08:41 AM   #2
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I could not reedit the poll in order to add another option (other printing tools) i would kindly request any moderator to change it , that way i would have more general results . thanks
 
Old 03-03-2003, 10:28 AM   #3
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You missed cups

I personally have had NO luck getting my printer installed under Slackware, using CUPS, nor the APSfilter. I really gave it a good go too, probably worked on it alone for a week solid. Never could get it to print from a browser. I did manage to echo a test page, and I think even print a test page from CUPS web interface, but never from the actual print button itself. I have an HP 932C and it's connected via USB, so that might have a bit to do with it

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Old 03-03-2003, 11:39 AM   #4
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Wheres RBTW (Reboot To Windows) on that poll?
 
Old 03-03-2003, 11:51 AM   #5
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If I've got to print something, I use:
RBTM
Reboot to Mandy

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Old 03-03-2003, 02:40 PM   #6
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that's it, i knew i forgot something , thanks Master C ,
well anyways i guess that i'd be glad to hear from people that got their printer working with slackware . c'mon guys , it can't be that difficult , can it? the thought of having to reboot my machine to simply print out a few pages is revolting , to say the least , and i do swicth to windows ,actually, to print anything.
I have to honest tough , Mandrake is very usefull in this times , but i guess duality is fact of life , hope that maybe next slack generations will have a easier way to deal with it , or not .


damn , how could i forgot CUPS ?
 
Old 03-03-2003, 02:51 PM   #7
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and yes apsfilter doesn't reference my printer either !
 
Old 03-03-2003, 02:57 PM   #8
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I use CUPS. No problems on my home computer, Lexmark Optra E312.
 
Old 03-03-2003, 04:38 PM   #9
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Moses, care to share a story with us on setting it up ?

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Old 03-03-2003, 07:21 PM   #10
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Sure.
First, point your browser to http://www.cups.org
Read the documentation about CUPS, IPP, etc. to be sure this is the
solution for you (it is). Download the latest version of CUPS, and the latest
version of ESP Ghostscript, which contains some modifications to
ghostscript, and is necessary (I don't know if the latest ghostscript from
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ contains the modifications, so just get
the ESP version).

Once you have the source code (I always recommend source, binaries are
at your own risk), you can either jump into installing CUPS, or back up
your old print system. CUPS can possibly overwrite your old print setup,
so if you worry about breaking things and not being able to go back, back
it up. Now, read the readme, configure && make && make install
for ghostscript, then for CUPS.
You've installed CUPS, now you need to configure it. Go to /etc/cups,
edit cupsd.conf, and set up your server as per your network requirements.
Copious amounts of reading of the documentation is in order here, as
there are numerous options that may need to be configured. The relevant
manual is the System Administrator's section of the documentation (you'll
get to the User's section soon).
If you have more than one computer on your network, and you would like
to print from those through your cups server, you need to install the CUPS
software(at a minimum, the ghostscript stuff isn't necessary), and set up
this new system as a client. This usually consists of editing a file called
/etc/cups/client.conf and inputing the name or IP address of your print
server.
Ok, now you've got your print system up, but no printers are configured.
That's because you need to install some printer drivers. There are many
free printer drivers. http://www.cups.org has some links to a few good
sources, and http://www.easysw.com also allows you to download a large
chunk of printer drivers (though, I don't remember if these drivers work
w/o paying for the ESP software -- probably not).
Here are a few links to search for your printer driver:
http://www.adobe.com/products/printe...rs/winppd.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/jackalj/
http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
http://www.linuxprinting.org/
Once you have your printer driver downloaded, you can start the setup of
your printer. First you'll need to put the printer driver in
/usr/share/cups/model, or just remember where it is if you are up to
configuring your printer via command line.
If you prefer command line, read the documentation on all
the options available for setting up your printer (I won't repeat it here,
since there are several pages worth).
If you prefer a (more limited) GUI, you can start up the CUPS server
(/etc/init.d/cups start) and point your web browser to: http://localhost:631
and you will open up a page allowing you to, among other things, set up the
printers. This probably won't work for most of you because you didn't set
up any authentication for system administration of the printers. Do this
by configuring the Authentication of the cupd.conf, and then by using
lppasswd to add a user and set its password. This should be sufficient, but
you may need to add a user using adduser, try lppasswd first.

Once you have your printer configured, you should be able to just print
using lp or lpr.
There are a lot of things missing from here, and this is really meant to be
the start of a HOW-TO, with input from others. I'm writing this with one
hand while I feed my son, so it's a lot shorter and more terse than it
necessarily should be. Start the questions, and I'll try to answer them. . .
I'm sure I missed something, so if this isn't useful, post a clarification,
correction, or whatever. It may be good to also move this post to a new
thread, but I'm not in the mood to do that right now. . . =-}
If you don't like either of the above configuration tools, there are a
multitude of others available. kups, qtcups, etc. Do a google search.

Last edited by moses; 03-03-2003 at 07:26 PM.
 
Old 03-03-2003, 07:55 PM   #11
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I have only used CUPS on generated PostScript conversion to any of my printers under X. Except when I first started using X, back on version 7, I wrote a print filter that used GhostScript and a LFCR filter for my laser. (HP LaserJet 4+) That used just the lpr package. (Not lprng - that package is broken!)

I have used CUPS on both the network, USB and par port. I have probably configured for about 15 or 20 different printers over time. The biggest problem area is with WinPrinters of course.

Didn't care about color printing until I switched to CUPS for my Epson Photo 700 and now it is an Epson Photo 820. Excellent photographs from both Gimp and OpenOffice. I have used both on the par port and using a USB adapter with great success. Recent CUPS releases only, after the epgs package was split apart.

My biggest problem with printing is the paper size issue. All this stuff comes from Europe and it wants to keep defaulting to A4. I even thought about just buying A4 paper and a A4 paper tray. But I guess I would have to order it from Europe as well because I can't find it local. And I am unable to find where the paper sizes are stored so that I can delete the ones I do not want. You would think that this would be a part of the local config stuff like the timezone settings. I have created a template under OpenOffice that sets it to letter, but when I go print; the printer is still defaulted to A4. GhostScript is OK, but I still have problems some times with the edges being cutoff. So I added a PostScript SIMM and memory to my laser printer.

Since I have been here at LQ I have learned about apsfilter as well. It sounds like a promising alternative to CUPS. Something I need to work with more. I suspect that CUPS will go all commercial when they have the user base they desire from the major distributions.

On your list of choices, LPD is the only one that I have used. I have never even heard of the rest of them before. Are they are apart of, or offered, with the Slack distribution?

I still use the lpr package, aka LPD, for controlling my network printers on print servers. Usually they are Windows based machines and they have the proper drivers. The print server only needs to provide spooling, either local par port or ethernet JetDirect (TCP/IP). I have used this configuration since Slackware 3.6 that was my first Slackware.

Anyone that has not been able to resolve their printing issues here on LQ can feel free to email me if they desire. I will try to offer whatever suggestions or assistance that I might be able. Please keep in mind though that I do not own or recommend any Winprinters. So I do not have any way of testing anything using hpijs. If a printer will not even print a self test page all by itself then I wouldn't waste money on it. I would consider it DOA.

Well it is my hope that my overall positive experiences will at least be of some encouragement to somebody.

Excalibur


/Edit
Just read the post from Moses! Way to go Moses....

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Old 03-03-2003, 08:18 PM   #12
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CUPS here ... both at home and work.

At home using a Lexmark Optra R
connected to the server's lpt, at
work through a lpd-spool on a BSD
machine :) to a variety of printers
(HP & Tektroniks)

No problems!

Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 03-03-2003, 08:39 PM   #13
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MasterC: If you are printing to your printer from Mandy, isn't that CUPS based? At least it was on the last version I used. In fact, I think I am sure that Mandy was the first place I saw CUPS. Two, three or four versions ago. The last version I used at all though was 7.1.
 
Old 03-03-2003, 09:45 PM   #14
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Yes sir! It still is, and I choose the CUPS option everytime. However, I had no luck setting it up in Slack when I was trying. I might give it a go with your's and Moses' thesis and my further gain in knowledge might help too. If I do, I'll be sure to post the results

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Old 03-04-2003, 10:44 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by Excalibur
My biggest problem with printing is the paper size issue. All this stuff comes from Europe and it wants to keep defaulting to A4. I even thought about just buying A4 paper and a A4 paper tray. But I guess I would have to order it from Europe as well because I can't find it local. And I am unable to find where the paper sizes are stored so that I can delete the ones I do not want. You would think that this would be a part of the local config stuff like the timezone settings. I have created a template under OpenOffice that sets it to letter, but when I go print; the printer is still defaulted to A4. GhostScript is OK, but I still have problems some times with the edges being cutoff. So I added a PostScript SIMM and memory to my laser printer.
The A4 paper size issue is a problem with OpenOffice.org. I've
failed to find a solution, but I haven't submitted a bug report either.

I used apsfilter some time ago, and as long as you have a printer
than can handle PostScript, you're fine, but once you start using
HP or other proprietary language printers, you are out of luck.

There is a commercial venture attached to CUPS. Easy Software
provides configuration software (that in my opinion isn't very
good), printer drivers (that I *think* require certain filters from
the commercial package to work), and support for the CUPS and
ESP packages.
 
  


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