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gabytf 10-10-2012 11:06 PM

Slackware in Chinese OS environment
 
Do we currently have slackware run in Chinese Operation System? If yes how to set it? IF none, what it gonna takes to develop such system.

ssl779 10-10-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabytf (Post 4802620)
Do we currently have slackware run in Chinese Operation System? If yes how to set it? IF none, what it gonna takes to develop such system.

If you use KDE it should be easy: "System Settings"->"Common Appearance and Behavior"->"Locale" and change to Chinese.
and also take a look at "SCIM Input Method"

ReaperX7 10-10-2012 11:18 PM

Check with laws in China regarding encryption software. Slackware and most Linux distributions include software like SSH by default and host various methods of data encryption that are considered illegal, and importing/exporting many encryption/decryption tools from various countries is illegal anyways.

A Chinese Slackware Linux distribution would have to be completely made from the ground, up to comply with the laws of that country. There is one Linux distribution I know of called Red Flag Linux that is created specifically for Chinese Universities and public systems.

Here's an article that might help explain why this is a arduous process.

Code:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176138/New_China_encryption_rule_could_pose_headaches_for_U.S._vendors
As it stands, the encryption laws of China forbid companies from selling products that use any type of data encryption that are not authorized and on file with the China's Certification and Accreditation Administration (CNCA). And United States laws prohibit the exportation of software encryption methods, libraries, and packages to foreign nations as it is.

astrogeek 10-10-2012 11:32 PM

Of course the OP is in the only good position to decide what local legal requirements apply to him/her, and which among those they must or will comply with.

But I think that urging self-enforcement of compliance with arbitrary law as the starting point for installing FREE software is a self-defeating exercise.

Without even passive effort to spread the ideals of FREEDOM that underly FREE software, all is lost.

FREEDOM is not automatic self-enforced "compliance"...

688a 10-10-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabytf (Post 4802620)
Do we currently have slackware run in Chinese Operation System? If yes how to set it? IF none, what it gonna takes to develop such system.

Check out this version of Linux. It has been develping in China:
http://www.linuxdeepin.com/

TracyTiger 10-11-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaperX7 (Post 4802623)
Check with laws in China regarding encryption software. ....
A Chinese Slackware Linux distribution would have to be completely made from the ground, up to comply with the laws of that country.

@ReaperX7 Your posts in LQ are always informational including this one.

Please note however that setting up a computer for a version of the Chinese language is not necessarily the same as setting up a Slack system to operate in the country of China. In this case the OP appears to reside in Malaysia.

Next summer a future phase of a long term project I'm working on involves setting up Slackware to run some applications in the Chinese language. Though not the complete language package that OP is asking about, it's an example of using Chinese on Slack and having nothing to do with the laws of China.

Thanks for your post. I'll bookmark this thread for next summer.

ReaperX7 10-11-2012 12:07 AM

:hattip:Much welcome.

gabytf 10-11-2012 12:46 AM

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In this case the OP appears to reside in Malaysia
Thank you guys, yes i am reside in Malaysia not China.
I observed that there are Chinese Communities active with distro e.g Debian, Ubuntu but none with slackware particularly. I am bilingual with both English and Chinese where i can utilize Slackware in English version.

I am thinking of how to intro Slackware into a wider user groups like those who more prefer Chinese language.

pino_otto 10-11-2012 01:05 AM

I am very interested about Slackware in Chinese.

I am Italian, but now living in China and I use Slackware. I would like to spread Slackware in China, so a Chinese version can be very useful.

Eternal_Newbie 10-11-2012 03:31 AM

slackware should work OK in chinese, once a few settings are changed. This should get you going.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slackware 14.0 CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT
Input methods for complex characters (CJK, which is shorthand for Chinese,
Japanese, Korean) and other non-latin character sets have been added. These
input methods use the SCIM (Smart Common Input Method) platform.
The environment variables for SCIM support are set in /etc/profile.d/scim.sh
The requirements for getting SCIM input methods to work in your X session
are as follows:
(1) Use a UTF-8 locale. Look in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh for setting your
language to (for instance) en_US.UTF-8. As a word of warning: maybe you
should leave root with a non-UTF-8 locale because you don't want root's
commands to be misinterpreted. You can add the following line to your
~/.profile file to enable UTF-8 just for yourself:
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
(2) Make the scim profile scripts executable. These will setup your
environment correctly for the use of scim with X applications. Run:
chmod +x /etc/profile.d/scim.*
(3) Start the scim daemon as soon as your X session starts. The scim daemon
must be active before any of your X applications. In KDE, you can add a
shell script to the ~/.kde/Autostart folder that runs the command
"scim -d". In XFCE you can add "scim -d" to the Autostarted Applications.
If you boot your computer in runlevel 4 (the graphical XDM/KDM login)
you can simply add the line "scim -d" to your ~/.xprofile file.
This gives you a Desktop Environment independent way of starting scim.
When scim is running, you will see a small keyboard icon in your system tray.
Right-click it to enter SCIM Setup. In 'Global Setup' select your keyboard
layout, and you are ready to start entering just about any language
characters you wish! Press the magical key combo <Control><Space>
in order to activate or deactivate SCIM input. The SCIM taskbar in the
desktop's corner allows you to select a language. As you type, SCIM will show
an overview of applicable character glyphs (if you are inputting complex
characters like Japanese).

Several forum members worked closely with the Slackware team to make it work better with the CJK input methods. One of them will probably pop into this thread and give you some better info.

gabytf 10-11-2012 04:06 AM

Thank you ssl779 and Eternal_Newbie for your respond.
I've got the Chinese characters input method SCIM worked, it runs well. However i am more interested in the Operation system and applications where it run in Chinese, something like you install slackware in Chinese or run applications in Chinese, of cause by then the input method is also in Chinese.

I don't think we have it at least for now.

guanx 10-11-2012 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 688a (Post 4802632)
Check out this version of Linux. It has been develping in China:
http://www.linuxdeepin.com/

That distro is a modified version of Ubuntu, which is a modified version of Debian itself.

Besides, the company of "Deepin" has grown up by profiting from distribution of malware within its modified, pirate versions of Microsoft Windows. What such a company can do to free software is under question.

guanx 10-11-2012 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabytf (Post 4802751)
Thank you ssl779 and Eternal_Newbie for your respond.
I've got the Chinese characters input method SCIM worked, it runs well. However i am more interested in the Operation system and applications where it run in Chinese, something like you install slackware in Chinese or run applications in Chinese, of cause by then the input method is also in Chinese.

I don't think we have it at least for now.

Of course some things are still to be improved. For example you have to ungzip "/usr/share/fonts/encodings/large/gbk-0.enc.gz" into "/usr/share/fonts/encodings/large/gbk-0.enc" or luit crashes. But most of the things work well.

BTW, If you have problems please be specific, then developers can improve the software.

guanx 10-11-2012 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaperX7 (Post 4802623)
Check with laws in China ...

I can't help lol before reading further.

According to Chinese law, individuals cannot hold the following things:
  • Heterodyne receiver
  • Audio amplifier
  • Capacitor working above 1500V(DC)
Ref. http://www.hflib.gov.cn/law/law/falv...%20SF/1114.htm

lihongwu 10-11-2012 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guanx (Post 4802790)
That distro is a modified version of Ubuntu, which is a modified version of Debian itself.

Besides, the company of "Deepin" has grown up by profiting from distribution of malware within its modified, pirate versions of Microsoft Windows. What such a company can do to free software is under question.

The Linux Deepin Team has its own route for development. Currently it is based on Ubuntu, however, it will sooner or later fork and go on separate path. Linux Deepin is community-driven and no profit has been made so far. If you have doubts or suspicion please directly report to the team rather than arouse disputes with provocative words. Why so cruel? Just because we are a distro in your/our country? Be kind to your own countryman. Thanks.

Kind Regards,
Alex
Linux Deepin Team


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