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Old 02-13-2016, 01:28 PM   #1
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Slackware from scratch with systemd


A new exercise, I built "slackware from scratch with systemd". I used dlackware slackbuilds to build this kind of distribution.
I did it just for the fun.
No proselytism for systemd, just an intellectual exercise.
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Old 02-13-2016, 02:07 PM   #2
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Good! Your next exercise is to build "Fedora from scratch without systemd".
 
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:36 PM   #3
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Maybe,who knows?��
 
Old 02-13-2016, 03:48 PM   #4
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It would be more usefull Hardened Slackware.

I find compiler flags: -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 and linker -z relro quite safe with no performance penalty on x86_64 .

I wonder why they are not yet in the current although samba,sshd, cups are already partly so compiled.
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RELRO           STACK CANARY      NX            PIE             RPATH      RUNPATH	FORTIFY	FORTIFIED FORTIFY-able  FILE
Full RELRO      Canary found      NX enabled    PIE enabled     No RPATH   No RUNPATH   Yes	11		20	/usr/bin/ssh
No RELRO        Canary found      NX enabled    PIE enabled     No RPATH   No RUNPATH   Yes	0		15	/usr/sbin/cupsd
Full RELRO      Canary found      NX enabled    PIE enabled     No RPATH   No RUNPATH   Yes	0		2	/usr/sbin/smbd
No RELRO        No canary found   NX enabled    No PIE          No RPATH   No RUNPATH   No	0		7	/usr/sbin/crond
Why only a few.

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Old 02-13-2016, 06:52 PM   #5
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Good! Your next exercise is to build "Fedora from scratch without systemd".
+1

There is a group (http://www.blagblagblag.org/) that was attempting to remove systemd, SELinux and other little nasties from Fedora...however, It has been stalled for some time.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 06:59 PM   #6
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Given that Fedora is Red Hat's test distro, I expect it would be difficult to remove it, since it'll be more tightly integrated into Fedora than it is anything else I'd suspect.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 01:17 AM   #7
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Given that Fedora is Red Hat's test distro, I expect it would be difficult to remove it, since it'll be more tightly integrated into Fedora than it is anything else I'd suspect.
Maybe that's the MAIN POINT of the joke isn't it ?
 
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Old 02-14-2016, 01:36 AM   #8
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Good! Your next exercise is to build "Fedora from scratch without systemd".
Laughed so much. Thanks Didier
 
Old 02-14-2016, 04:32 AM   #9
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sorry for the bad joke: nobodino(ze)!!
 
Old 02-14-2016, 06:58 AM   #10
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impressive. now moving from the intellectual to the practical: is there any noticable difference on a day-to-day basis?
 
Old 02-14-2016, 07:04 AM   #11
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impressive. now moving from the intellectual to the practical: is there any noticable difference on a day-to-day basis?
It's obvious that it depends of the "day-to-day" job you have... As admin it MUST be different, as a end user I don't know but I guess it might be "less" different.

On this forum, I guess we all have some part of "admin" task.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 03:24 PM   #12
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Let's hope that Slackware, CRUX, Gentoo, Manjaro-openrc and others can hold out and remain systemd-free.
I saw systemd described as the best news for the BSD's!
 
Old 02-15-2016, 06:31 PM   #13
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It's obvious that it depends of the "day-to-day" job you have...
Sure. That's why I was asking OP since he has first-hand experience.

NB. I try to keep an open mind on systemd since the status quo is not so brilliant either.
 
  


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