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Old 08-20-2012, 10:46 AM   #121
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You can still create articles in the playground area and then once the topic tree is ready you'll just paste them in the relevant sections.
This.

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You don't start buying furniture until your house and rooms are ready.
Yes, but if you were making furniture, you would want it finished before you move in, and most people seem to want to move in as soon as the house and rooms are ready.

Still, I think we are all agreed here. Let's go!

C'mon Kiki, on se bouge !

Yes, we know you're busy; no worries!

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Old 08-20-2012, 10:47 AM   #122
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:49 AM   #123
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Bear in mind that that way you're creating additional work for somebody else. Easy or not, poor administrator if a lot of people start doing it. LOL
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It's a great idea, and I would like to help. However, my technical knowledge is limited, but I may be of use for this sort of thing:
Yay! +1 for brianL!
 
Old 08-20-2012, 10:52 AM   #124
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Yes, but if you were making furniture, you would want it finished before you move in, and most people seem to want to move in as soon as the house and rooms are ready.
Yes, but the furniture would not be placed in the room. Not until it's finished. It (the furniture) would be created and stored in a factory/shop (ie. a user's computer) waiting for the room to be finished. Once you decide your house (structure) and rooms (sections) are finished, you'll call your friend (or a company) and start placing the furniture in the rooms.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 10:55 AM   #125
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HELP!!!!!!
LOL
Think I've broken one of my life-long Golden Rules: Never volunteer for anything.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:06 AM   #126
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Yes, but the furniture would not be placed in the room. Not until it's finished. It (the furniture) would be created and stored in a factory/shop (ie. a user's computer) waiting for the room to be finished. Once you decide your house (structure) and rooms (sections) are finished, you'll call your friend (or a company) and start placing the furniture in the rooms.
Right. I think we're getting a little carried away with this, but I (and v and you) suggested putting the furniture on the playground (in the shed?) while the house and rooms are completed, at which point, we'll call brianL to move us in.

I am completely with you that we should not be inserting things into a structure that is non-existant/not finished. I don't agree that we must store them all locally on our machines (talk about duplication of work!) while we await administrative decisions. If we set up a playground or shed or whatever and put the documents there, we will be able to use the site index to see what people have already put up (there is quite a bit), and we won't duplicate as much. Otherwise, we'll need to set up some other system to split up the work.

Still, if the decision is made that the wiki will function more like Slackbuilds, then I'll get behind that, too. For the time being, though, is there harm if Slackware-relevant docs are uploaded to non-main sections of the wiki? If a page that's created doesn't find a home in the final wiki, then stick it is misc or nowhere at all. But I don't understand why it shouldn't be able to be on the site somewhere.

Maybe the front pages should be locked for the time being?
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:19 AM   #128
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Is there to be a demarcation between editors and authors, or is it to be a collaborative effort? Everybody "mucking in" (as we say in Oldham), when and were they can?
And when was I appointed administrator, sitting in a shed under a pile of articles?
 
Old 08-20-2012, 11:28 AM   #129
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HELP!!!!!!
LOL
Think I've broken one of my life-long Golden Rules: Never volunteer for anything.
If at first you don't succeed, just volunteer to WRITE some instructions
 
Old 08-20-2012, 11:29 AM   #130
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And when was I appointed administrator, sitting in a shed under a pile of articles?
You volunteered!

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Playground is a namespace in the wiki itself. It is not referring to local storage.
That's why I suggested it, as opposed to placing it somewhere else. It would allow the easy manipulation of the documents by an administrator.

Kookiemonster has also already added a few pages to slackbook, which seems an appropriate place! All I meant to imply is that playground is not linked to from http://taper.alienbase.nl/dokuwiki/start so it's "invisible," in the sense that you have to know where it is/go looking for it.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 11:57 AM   #131
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Let's leave analogies and agree on something. Whatever we decide we need to remember that we don't write it for ourselves. We write it for other people so it is vital that it's structured in a way that it's easy and clear to navigate. When a user visits the page they should know where to find a particular piece of information, not wander in circles.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 11:57 AM   #132
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All I meant to imply is that playground is not linked to from http://taper.alienbase.nl/dokuwiki/start so it's "invisible," in the sense that you have to know where it is/go looking for it.
The link is present on that page. Just click Playground at the bottom of the page.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 12:00 PM   #133
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The link is present on that page. Just click Playground at the bottom of the page.
In the Trace: box?

I don't think that means what you think it means.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 12:05 PM   #134
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I also translated the start page in FR. There are already a lot of documents to be translated, so lazy frenchies, up to work, help me ^^
BTW, don't hesitate to correct/rephrase me, I'm currently in an English-spoken country so I may stick too much to a literal translation (ie word by word).

As per the (content || TOC) first, I think this is not really a debate. Honestly ... is a bunch of mv commands a PITA for a CLI user ?! With thousands of docs maybe, but we are far from this point.
My guess: start writing/translating, and at the same time think about a TOC/namespace/whatever that would fit the purpose.

Not only Linux is multitasking. We have in our brain the best OS ever !

Last edited by zithro; 08-20-2012 at 12:18 PM. Reason: PITA not PIA
 
Old 08-20-2012, 12:07 PM   #135
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You volunteered!
I know you'll be disappointed ( ), but Alien Bob and kikinovak are administrators.
 
  


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