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08-20-2012, 04:34 AM
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#91
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Laptop: Slackware 14.0 // Desktop: Slackware64 14.0 // Netbook: Slackware 14.0
Posts: 6,176
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I really must learn to read things properly! Pandoc converts to Mediawiki, NOT Docuwiki - which is what we want. Sorry.
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08-20-2012, 04:45 AM
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#92
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Last edited by vharishankar; 11-02-2012 at 12:41 PM.
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08-20-2012, 05:40 AM
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#93
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Member
Registered: Aug 2012
Distribution: Slackware 13.37
Posts: 46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Didier Spaier
Some of us think that documentation must be written in English *then* translated in other languages if need be.
But why not let people write directly in their native language?
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Because as said by others we need a complete base first. And as it seems this wiki will be integrated to the mothership (docs.slackware.com), we will need thorough verification of the articles to stick with the slack philosophy. Of course I understand what you say: better in another lang than nothing ...
I've registered at SlackDocs, and subscribed to the mailing list. Reading now.
AlienBOB, I really wanna see your network/wireless article on the wiki, it helped me getting online ! And when your online, all other problems can be googled/LQed  If you want I can duplicate it. (BTW if you could check this post, I dunno how relevant my bug was to the wireless scripts).
Offtopic:
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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier
<off topic>This discussion reminds me that more than 30 years ago, I translated in French a Basic interpreter (both keywords and messages).
By that time I could load into 64 KB of RAM two versions of the interpreter, and there was still enough room for other stuff. Oh, well... </off topic>
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Oh nostalgia, I learnt Logo and BASIC when I was 8yo at school ^^ What was the purpose of your translation: educational, recreational, professional ? I may have learnt on your translated versions !
On the dark side, I remember when Texas Instruments decided to translate EVERY function names in their Ti89 in people's native languages. So my french friends were unable to use ANY of the programs written in english without a prior functions translation (not even talking about strings huh). I ended up installing the EN firmware in their calcs ... The intention was nice, but it was practically useless.
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08-20-2012, 05:56 AM
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#94
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slackware-14.0 on a Lenovo T61 6457-4XG
Posts: 2,781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zithro
What was the purpose of your translation: educational, recreational, professional ? I may have learnt on your translated versions !
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C'était dans le cadre d'un mémoire soutenu en vue d'obtenir le diplôme de psychologue du travail du Conservatoire National des Arts et Métiers :
"Mise à disposition directe des utilisateurs d'un micro ordinateur dans un service de gestion : étude psycho-sociologique". As traslated by Google:
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This was part of a thesis supported in order to obtain the diploma of occupational psychologist at the National Conservatory of Arts and Crafts:
"Provision of direct users of a microcomputer in a service management: study psycho-sociological
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By the way that was the first "personal computer" used in Billancourt plant of Renault. And I wrote a Logo interpreter in BASIC 
Last edited by Didier Spaier; 08-20-2012 at 06:24 AM.
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08-20-2012, 06:32 AM
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#95
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Wow ok, nice background ! 30 years ago, I was barely born ^^
And funny that at that time, a psycho-social study was needed in order to prove PC's usefullness at work 
I wanted to ask you about the conclusions of the study, but I'll PM instead, let's stick to the original debate.
About that, are you trying to imply that Google translate is now good enough for us to check the correctness of foreign languages translations ?  The FR to EN is almost correct.
BTW, AlienBOB's docuwiki seems to handle translations.
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08-20-2012, 06:36 AM
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#96
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Aug 2012
Distribution: slackware
Posts: 3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianL
I really must learn to read things properly! Pandoc converts to Mediawiki, NOT Docuwiki - which is what we want. Sorry.
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Technically, there is nothing impossible : https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugins?plu...tension__table I think we going to find what we are looking for.
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08-20-2012, 06:54 AM
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#98
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I'm gonna copy AlienBOB's wireless page on his wiki.
I have a question though: how can one know who's writing what, at a precise time ?
Shouldn't we establish a list of tasks, and attribute them to precise people ?
Like:
- import Slackbook TOC -> ?
- import wireless article -> zithro
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08-20-2012, 07:02 AM
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#99
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Laptop: Slackware 14.0 // Desktop: Slackware64 14.0 // Netbook: Slackware 14.0
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zithro
I'm gonna copy AlienBOB's wireless page on his wiki.
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Eric might want to do that himself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zithro
I have a question though: how can one know who's writing what, at a precise time ?
Shouldn't we establish a list of tasks, and attribute them to precise people ?
Like:
- import Slackbook TOC -> ?
- import wireless article -> zithro
- ...
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We can't. We're in different time-zones, and with other things to do besides. An organised schedule and allocation of tasks isn't practical. 
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08-20-2012, 07:47 AM
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#100
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Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Montpezat (South France)
Distribution: Slackware, Slackware64
Posts: 767
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianL
We can't. We're in different time-zones, and with other things to do besides. An organised schedule and allocation of tasks isn't practical. 
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I suggest the introduction of the word "soon". It adheres to the KISS principle and works in all timezones, both in UTC and localtime. 
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08-20-2012, 07:56 AM
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#101
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Laptop: Slackware 14.0 // Desktop: Slackware64 14.0 // Netbook: Slackware 14.0
Posts: 6,176
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"Between now and sometime in the future" or "URGENT!!! PLZZZZ!!!???" ?
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08-20-2012, 08:07 AM
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#102
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Last edited by vharishankar; 11-02-2012 at 12:41 PM.
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08-20-2012, 08:13 AM
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#103
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2012
Distribution: Debian Sid, Slackware 14
Posts: 7
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I agree with you, but will also gladly know what AlienBob thinks about it.
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08-20-2012, 08:25 AM
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#104
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Laptop: Slackware 14.0 // Desktop: Slackware64 14.0 // Netbook: Slackware 14.0
Posts: 6,176
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Really, I think we should have planned the overall structure before anything else. What/how many sections/pages to have, subsections, etc.
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08-20-2012, 08:26 AM
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#105
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Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Montpezat (South France)
Distribution: Slackware, Slackware64
Posts: 767
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianL
Really, I think we should have planned the overall structure before anything else. What/how many sections/pages to have, subsections, etc.
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+1 on that. Come join the official mailing list. Discussion underway.
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