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Old 05-30-2004, 08:14 PM   #16
mipia
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<sarcasm> to bad none of the answers to these questions can be found on the slackware site. Pat should just do away with the site and leave just the "get slack" and "changelog" sections. it just sits there wasting server space LOL </sarcasm>
 
Old 05-30-2004, 08:30 PM   #17
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ringwraith, I see your point. The thing in the back of my mind was that it seemed that, all of a sudden, the way we configure graphics was going to be completely different and the 3.7 billion threads here just about XF86Config were going to be obsoleted.

Also, please note the sneaky little in my previous post.
 
Old 05-30-2004, 08:35 PM   #18
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okay.... sorry, third glass of wine right now so i missed a nuance :-)
i think this was to be expected though. all the other distros are running from xfree because of the license issue and xorg has been in extra and Pat asked us to test it and advise of our position a few months ago.
think it is time to light up the pipe now :-)
 
Old 05-30-2004, 08:41 PM   #19
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Thanks for the reply thegeekster I assumed that Mister Patrick didn't put any extra help about configuring xorg cause he saw it was a little bit too easy and he don't treat people like idiots (I have heard that, friendly distro thinks people are idiot so they do everything for the user, Slackware is not friendly and don't think you are an idiot) it was really easy, I did that of deleting all my Xfree stuff, then did a fresh install of xorg, replace the config files, did startx and my X begin to work out. The only problem I have whit xorg (which i did have too whit Xfree 4.4.0) it's that my serial mouse takes 1 minute to begin to work after X server is up and running, no offense but whit Xfree 4.0.3 this never happend to me, yes whit xfree 4.4.0 I repeat and whit xorg too, which i have read xorg is based in Xfree 4.4.0 so it brings the same problem I have before.

it's the same thing really
 
Old 05-30-2004, 09:01 PM   #20
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Well............I wouldn't go so far as to say Slack is _not_ friendly, rather it is a "do-it-yourself" distro...........

But your right. Slack doesn't treat you as if you're an idiot........................one of the fortunes Slack has, and is currently in Tinkster's sig, is the definition of a guru - "A computer owner who can read the manual."................The assumption in this case would be going to the XOrg site and RTFM before trying it out so you know what you're getting into...........
 
Old 05-30-2004, 09:04 PM   #21
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All this talk of xorg. I searched around and found www.x.org.
Just thought I'd stick this link in here for reference.
(I hadn't seen this site until today. )
 
Old 05-30-2004, 09:18 PM   #22
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heres the part of the Changelog

Quote:
x/: Switched to X11R6.7.0 from X.Org. Thanks to those who sent comments to
x@slackware.com. Seems the community has spoken, because the opinions were
more than 4 to 1 in favor of using the X.Org release as the default version
of X. I think I've heard just about every side to this issue now, and it was
only after careful consideration and testing that this decision was made.
It's primarily (as is usual around here) a technical decision. Nearly
everyone else is going with X.Org and it seems to me that sticking with
XFree86 it spite of this would be asking for compatibility trouble (indeed,
we saw some issues between X.Org and XFree86 4.4.0 until a few things in
XFree86 were patched). I also noticed that the ATI Radeon binary drivers
designed for XFree86 4.3.0 do not work with XFree86 4.4.0, but do work with
the X.Org release. Something I'm *not* in favor of is dragging around two
nearly identical projects, so XFree86 4.4.0 has been moved to the
/pub/slackware/unsupported/ directory on the FTP site.

I'd like to take this moment to thank the XFree86 Project for all the truly
amazing work they've done all these years, and to wish the project the best
of luck. Slackware owes the XFree86 Project a debt of gratitude and will
always include the XFree86 acknowledgement, even if we are no longer
shipping XFree86.
Downloading it right now

Matt3333
 
Old 05-30-2004, 09:26 PM   #23
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Quote:
Originally posted by itsjustme
All this talk of xorg. I searched around and found www.x.org.
Just thought I'd stick this link in here for reference.
(I hadn't seen this site until today. )
Nice call, itsjustme................I just want to point out the North America links on XOrg's mirror page needs updating.................they should read

ftp.xfree86.org/pub/mirror/X.Org

for both ftp and http (note the added directroy /mirror/)


EDIT: I just sent an email to the site admin about the links................Hopefully they'll be updated soon...................

Last edited by thegeekster; 05-30-2004 at 09:51 PM.
 
Old 05-31-2004, 10:35 AM   #24
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in response to little_ball's problem with the mouse:

i had a similar problem with my mouse, where it would take some time before X registered it; the solution was to make sure my horizontal and vertical refresh rates were the range specified by the manufacturer (I found mine online)

hope this helps
 
Old 05-31-2004, 11:19 AM   #25
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TheOneAndOnlySM I know my horizontal and vertical range are fine. I'm using the same xfree config file I use before whit redhat, mandrake, debian, Openbsd, and even work nice whit slack. My mouse problem begin whit Xfree 4.4.0 as I say before, this problem never happend whit Xfree 4.0.3 under slack, even that I still use the same xfree 4.0.3 config file under xfree 4.4.0 I begin to have this problem whit the mice, and now the same problem shows in Xorg. Weird .... it shouldn't happend this cause I'm using the same config file for almost a year and in different Linux distro. And never have this problem.

Last edited by little_ball; 05-31-2004 at 11:22 AM.
 
Old 05-31-2004, 02:18 PM   #26
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If anyone wishes to use XFree86 4.4 with an ATI Radeon card: That config works fine for me, although there's officially no ATI driver support for that version, yet...

But it probably makes more sense to wander with the mainstream (use the xorg thing, ie).
 
  


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