Originally posted by chris318
Okay, stability is good but lets not get carried away. Even if u use 2.6 kernel you don't get many of the advantage becuase everything else was compiled again 2.4 headers. I'm just saying that the slow progress to adapt new features is making it stable yes, but it is also making it more geared for servers. Not for desktop where people don't have to be parnoid about stability and want thing like 2.6 and everything linked agaist it. They also want it compiled with the most recent stable gcc and flags at least for a pentium 2 or better. If not 64 as many people already have an amd cpu. I've tried slamd64 and it flys.
Also for it to go 64 bit at this point is unlikely as slamd64 has pretty much owns that port. So it's future as a desktop OS seems rather bleek to me.
Also, I'm not saying it should do automatic dependency checking but maybe at least tell you want things are linked against would be nice. Or any innovation in it's core system would be nice.
First, that babble about 2.4 and 2.6 headers is just nonsense. I have no idea where you got your info.
Second, the newest gcc 4.0 isn't included because it's really not "stable". There are alot of things that still need to be fixed. I'd rather wait a little while then see Pat just throw packages into current even though there may be huge flaws in them. So what if the newest version of <insert name> isn't in current 5 seconds after the developers post an announcement to their mailing list. Its more current then most any distro. If you want bleeding edge gotta have it now then use gentoo.
Third, pat has enough already on his plate. He doesn't need a whole other architecture to maintain. That's just stupidty. He's one person, not 20. Thats why there is slamd64.
I also use slackware as my desktop and server. It is an excellent desktop distro. Why wouldn't anyone want stability on their desktop? You like having things crash on you and act unstable? Slackware is also very current. I'm not running it on a 486. I've got an AMD64, 1GB Ram, Nvidia 6600 GT, 200GB SATA HDD, 12x DVD/RW drive and am running dual 19" LCD panels. I also run slackware on my brand new Toshiba tecra m3 which has all brand new hardware. 95% of the hardware works fine, the rest doesn't because it's not supported in linux period.
So your view that slackware's future as a desktop OS as "bleek" is very misguided and uninformed. I'm not saying Slackware is going to take over the world but it is as always going to have its own user base.
You want to see what a program is linked against?
root@Venus:~# which xmms
root@Venus:~# ldd /usr/bin/xmms
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xa7fc5000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xa7fad000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0xa7fa8000)
libxmms.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxmms.so.1 (0xa7f9b000)
libgtk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0xa7e7d000)
libgdk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0xa7e4b000)
libgmodule-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0xa7e48000)
libgthread-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0 (0xa7e45000)
libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0xa7e24000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0xa7e12000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0xa7e0e000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xa7dff000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xa7d35000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xa7d12000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xa7bf6000)
I'm not exactly sure what you mean about "innovation in its core system". Alot of innovation comes from software. Pat just maintains the distro not creating the software it uses.
From your remarks I get the impression that you just want the newest whiz bang thing even though you have no clue about it and what it is or does. You want all the newest packages the second they are available and you think anything less is "stagnation". I used to be like that too, then I realized I didn't care. My systems run without a hitch, I update them with swaret when I get an email from my server saying that slackware has been updated. I run 2.6.11 kernel on my servers and laptop and 2.6.10 on my desktop because it's so stable there is no need to upgrade my desktop. What does it matter if you have version 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 is released of whatever program. A rule of thumb is that minor version numbers are just bug fix releases so unless you're affected by it in some way it doesn't really matter. Besides Pat is always quite diligent with releases anyways. They may not be in current the next day but when they do I *know* that nothing will go wrong when I install it. But I'm crazy, I like a stable system that I can have installed for months and I will never notice a slowdown. I never to have to reinstall because my system seems to be getting bogged down for some unknown reason. It always performs just like it did the day I installed it even 6 months later.
Sorry to maybe come off quite harsh but you really don't seem to be informed at all and coming in here with an uninformed opinion saying slackware is irrelevant kind of pisses me off.