Slackware and Novell's fancy pants xgl
 

Hi all, I just tried out the liveCD called Kororaa, which demos the new xgl capabilities. All the fancy 3D stuff is worth seeing, but I personally wouldn't want to use it day to day. However, what I would want is the overall 3D acceleration for the desktop. I have an Nvidia Geforce 6600GT card, so it'd be nice to take advantage of it for normal use instead of just games.

My question comes down to this, has anyone tried xgl with Slackware, or found any guides for dealing with it?

xgl & slackware
 

I just tried Kororaa too, and it would be interesting. I did a quick search and traced my way back to a thread on the dropline gnome site. Seems there are quite a few people actively trying to get it working there. I went to the forums on the dropline site and searched for xgl and got three pages of results. Lots of error reports and so on, but one guy said on OSNews he has it working on a modified Slackware. I'm hoping they get it working on Dropline, as that's my Gnome of choice.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

joe f.

Thanks for the pointer, I'll have to keep up with Dropline Gnome. Right now I'm on xfce though. I'll have to dig deeper and see if xgl will be some sort of global pluggable extension or if it will be tied into Gnome.

We actually had the XGL stuff working soon after the announcement on the Novell page. Diffie, Paul_Best, and a few others, have been hammering on it and the X.org 7.0 stuff pretty hard. Check out this image on Dropline GNOME 2.12.3 with the Compiz/XGL updates:

http://diffie.droplinegnome.org/images/compiz_xgl.png

We hope that we find everything to be stable enough for release in our GNOME 2.14.0 release in a few weeks. If everything seems to be okay, we'll be building this support into X.org 7.0.

Our mailing list is a good reference for some of the "R&D" we do with some of the new toys on Slackware/Dropline. A few of the devs and users are always anxious to experiment with these things.

Here is a forum link with some of the X.org 7.0 and Compiz/XGL stuff we're working on:

http://dropline-gnome.sourceforge.ne...pic.php?t=4771

need advice
 

hello there!
Yesterday I just finished to download the Kororaa live-cd and stared awhile on xgl's amazing effects :D

I would like to get that working on my slackware, though I'm pretty used to KDE and I've never installed Gnome before. I'm going for Dropline because of zborgerd's links and xgl seems working alright on it.

My point is: is there any advice before installing Gnome? I won't like to lose KDE as it's my main working environment ;) Could I change between Gnome and KDE as I'm able to do so between XFCE and KDE without trouble? :rolleyes:

I need to read :study: more. I appreciate on advance any advice, thanks.

I would guess (again, GUESS) that you could still use KDE and have the xgl effects work. I installed Dropline-Gnome a while back and still use KDE (I really don't like Gnome all that much, but using Dropline is a great way to get all of the Gnome packages and to keep some things up to date). Give it a try, it can't hurt. Well, it CAN hurt, but still, no pain no gain, right?

slight

For dropline everything is simple. Just download the dropline-installer and run it. However, if you prefer to keep Slackware stable, then choose only to download the packages and install them manually because some of the dropline packages will overwrite original Slackware packages (X11,Abiword and so on).

I would suggest that you hold off for just a bit. We're still not totally sure that XGL is stable enough for the upcoming Dropline 2.14.0, but we will certainly offer it as an extra package if it is not. Of course, it is up to you. We just want to make it as simple as possible to install without breaking anything. :)

thanks everyone for their replies ;)

I think I'm going to wait until xgl becomes some kind of official, current or testing option for Slackware, hoping it can work on KDE (it should, doesn't it?). I might try it but not on this machine as it's my day-to-day work computer, I don't want to screw it up to hell.

By now I shall stick to the Kororaa live-cd to show off linux and xgl's properties to my not-so-appreciated-windows-clicking-lover friends :D :D :D

If anyone can get xgl running on Slackware please let me know

I just saw a demo of openxgl on an live SuSE disk and I have to admit, it looks great, and this could draw even more people to Linux because it is 'pretty.'

But Slackware is pretty stable and my friend wanted me to blow away Slackware and install a distro that has openxgl, but I'll wait and see what happens.

:cry: :cry: :cry: How come it doesn't work on kde (never heard anyone say anything about it on kde)

Kde & Xgl
 

RR64 Linux's web site says something about it: "I've made a little and dirty video that shows RR64 3.0b1 running XGL and Compiz on a KDE Session."

That's here: http://www.lxnaydesign.net/index.php...d=163&Itemid=2

I tried to load up their live DVD, but it didn't work very well. Always hung at one point or another. I tried installing and wiped out the MBR (or something) on my spare disk. Had to start over from cfdisk. They don't call it Beta for nothing.

See ya,

joe f.

I tried an install on a stock Slack during one week but i failed at the LAST step.
Here's the thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=413013
After trying kororaa, i realized that it's only eye-candy and it consumes A LOT of resources.
BUT it's very impressive and is a good way to convince people to switch to linux.

That's the whole point of XGL, impress people. If Windows can do it, Linux can do it (at least 2 times) better. I am concerned from a point of view though, if it makes Linux seem like a "me too".

I am only happy that XGL exists. I have tried the Kororaa live CD and I was impressed. But I wouldn't use it all the time, it's kind of tiring. A clean desktop is much more convenient to work on, something like Fluxbox or XFCE (for something more "heavy").

I tried it on a low-end (for today's standards) PC: AthlonXP 1600 with GeForce 4 MX and 512 RAM, and it went very smooth.

Kororaa live-cd got updated, now can be installed and supports KDE; the one sporting Gnome got called Gororaa

check it out! http://kororaa.org/