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Old 09-29-2012, 09:45 AM   #1
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Slackware 14 w/XFCE Screen Shot Request


I've been using Ubuntu since 7.04, but two years ago I've switched to Debian 6.0 to stay with the Gnome 2.x Desktop versus the Ubuntu Unity Fiasco. But, Debian Wheezy is coming out with XFCE Desktop with their next version. So, I'm switching to XFCE, and I'm interested in trying Slackware 14 after reading this forum and the Slackware2.PDF.

I've looked on Distrowatch.com for a Screen Snapshot of what XFCE 4.10 looks like in Slackware, but the Screens are out of date. Could someone that has
XFCE installed in Slackware 14 post a typical Screenshot of Slackware, so I have an idea of what it really is? (Top Panel vs Bottom Panel, Docky or none, Colors etc.) (I've played with Vector Linux 7, but something didn't work correctly, and I now forget what that was, so I ruled it out for the time being, and I'm continuing my Distro search.)

I've downloaded Slackware, and burned the DVD, so I can print the Documentation. I might attempt a Guest Install in VirtualBox in a few days, after reading the documentation.

A Slackware Default XFCE 4.10 Screen Snapshot would be of great help in making my decision.

One other question I have about Slackware is how long will Version 14 be supported? I've read that it isn't considered a Rolling Release, it's not Bleeding Edge, but is Stable, and will be supported until it's announced that support is ending. But, what would be a good typical time frame for this? Is 5 Years a good Typical Life of Version 14 before upgrading to the next version. Or should a Complete new install be done on the next Major Revision, versus just Updates on Minor Revisions to 14?

Thanks.

Larry
 
Old 09-29-2012, 09:53 AM   #2
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XFCE is plain vanilla in Slackware. There is no Slackware branding on any DE so all that's up to you.

You get an xfce wallpaper and an invitation to set up a panel in one of 2 (maybe 3) ways I think.

After that, it's up to you.

XFCE can be made to look a lot like Gnome 2 but if it's Gnome 2 you really want, you could check out Mate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(desktop_environment)

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Old 09-29-2012, 09:57 AM   #3
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About support period, support for Slackware 12.0 and older releases was discontinued just a few weeks ago. Slackware 12.0 was released on 2007/07/12, so I would expect at least 5 years of support for Slackware 14.

Yes Slackware 14 is stable as Slackware releases have always been.

This page on Distrowatch will give you a rough idea of new versions' release periodicity for Slackware. What is sure is there is no fixed period. The usual answer to the question "when will the next version of Slackware be released" is "when it will be ready".

You won't have to reinstall from scratch when the next Slackware version will be released, as a procedure is always provided to upgrade from a version to the next one, see UPGRADE.TXT at the root of Slackware 14 for instance. On the other hand you can safely keep the older version, probably at least 5 years if you prefer.

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Old 09-29-2012, 10:27 AM   #4
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Xfce-Dusk theme I think...which is cool but has a bad habit of making some text invisible
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:29 AM   #5
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Slackware 14.0, XFce 4.10.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:39 AM   #6
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See my post here for another themed example. That's Avant Window Navigator at the bottom. Basically it looks like hitest posted out of the box, but can look like anything you want.
 
Old 09-29-2012, 10:39 AM   #7
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because you asked
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:10 AM   #8
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Here's my highly customized Slackware-based Xfce desktop. It's still 13.37, but 14.0 will look the same, I guess.

http://www.microlinux.fr/desktop_linux.php
 
Old 09-29-2012, 11:27 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by lkraemer View Post
A Slackware Default XFCE 4.10 Screen Snapshot would be of great help in making my decision.
Here ya go.. of course the little mouse is under that about screen.
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/2713/snapshot20c.png
 
Old 09-29-2012, 12:34 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone for the Information and Screen Snapshots.

I've tried to install in VirtualBox, and I got a pae error on hugesmp and some exception error on huge.
So, I've given up on VirtualBox 4.0.16.xx for the moment.

I guess my next step will be to install a New Hard Drive and have a go with Slackware..............


Thanks.

Larry
 
Old 09-29-2012, 01:32 PM   #11
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I've tried to install in VirtualBox, and I got a pae error on hugesmp
The smp kernels are compiled with PAE enabled, so you have to ecplicitly enable PAE in the settings of your VM.
 
Old 09-29-2012, 01:48 PM   #12
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See my post here for another themed example. That's Avant Window Navigator at the bottom. Basically it looks like hitest posted out of the box, but can look like anything you want.
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I would be interested in knowing how you got it to look like that. I am an XFCE fan in general but I don't like the way the default looks in Slackware and I don't really know how to change it. How do you get it from the default to that? Even your desktop icons look better I think . . .
 
Old 09-29-2012, 02:20 PM   #13
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TobiSGD,
I did enable the pae checkbox in VirtualBox, but then I got a Kernel Panic. I tried huge.s too, but
I still got a Kernel Panic.

I also tried "Enable IO APIC" enabled, and not enabled. I still get a Kernel Panic.

Do you have another suggestion to get Slackware 14 installed in VirtualBox?


KDHofAvalon, I too would be interested how you modified XFCE to get that look. With the little bit of
playing I have done with XFCE in Linux Mint LMDE (XFCE 4.8) LiveDVD, I'd never be able to reproduce your
Desktop. Would you know of a Guide or Tutorial that could be used to setup XFCE? My searches haven't
located any, except this one to Pimp up Fedora.
http://fedorarules.blogspot.com/2012...fedora-17.html


Here is my CPU information:
Quote:
larry@debian:~$ more /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 37
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
stepping : 5
cpu MHz : 933.000
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 11
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm c
onstant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni
dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm popcnt lahf_lm arat
bogomips : 4256.25
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 37
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
stepping : 5
cpu MHz : 933.000
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 2
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 4
initial apicid : 4
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 11
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm c
onstant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni
dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm popcnt lahf_lm arat
bogomips : 4255.91
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

larry@debian:~$ lscpu
Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
CPU(s): 2
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 2
CPU socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 6
Model: 37
Stepping: 5
CPU MHz: 933.000
L1d cache: 32K
L1i cache: 32K
L2 cache: 256K
L3 cache: 3072K
larry@debian:~$
I just tried to install Slackware on my Desktop with VirtualBox 3.1.x and got errors on the DVD,
so I'm downloading again to get a good ISO. I'll verify the md5sum this time.


Thanks.

Larry

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Old 09-29-2012, 04:51 PM   #14
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My XFCE 4.10 Setup

It's really nothing special, I just use the Litestyle suite (specifically the Grass-Dark flavor) for GTK and XFWM4 theme (get it at gnome-look.org), smoke for the xfce-notifyd theme (installed by default), the dark theme for Avant Window Navigator (comes with the awn slackbuild at slackbuilds.org), and (k)AwOken Clear for the icon theme (also at gnome-look.org, matching kde version at kde-look.org).

You'll have to install them all manually in /usr/share/themes (Litestyle) and /usr/share/icons (AwOken and kAwOken) for system wide, or ~/.icons (AwOken), ~/.themes (Litestyle), and ~/.kde/share/icons (kAwOken) for your user only, but that's just a simple extract and copy operation.

As for the whole configuration, the top bar contains this:
  1. a separator
  2. applications menu
  3. another separator
  4. window buttons (single desktop, allow drag and drop)
  5. an expanded separator
  6. mixer
  7. notification area
  8. another separator
  9. clock (digital layout, custom format of %A, %b %d %l:%M %p)
  10. another separator
  11. action buttons
  12. and a final separator

Avant Window Navigator is using 48 pixel icons and the 3d style. The only active applet is the Launcher/Taskmanger which is configured to:
  • show all windows
  • group common windows
  • allow drag and drop reordering

The icons (yes, they have to be configured) are setup to use home3, computer3, trash4, add color, and slackware1 as start-here. (you'll understand what all that means when you run the configuration script)

As for conky (the vertical bar on the second monitor, with a second copy of the date), I'm using a heavily modified and merged version of the mira theme, which I first found when I was using ArchLinux a few years ago. Sadly I don't recall where I actually downloaded it, but I can upload the original and/or my modification if you like.

Also, sitting on top of conky is a 51% visible xfce panel containing only a workspace switcher with 3 rows.

For things that aren't immediately apparent, I have KDE apps set to use the GTK style and kAwOken icon theme for seamless integration, and the Litestyle theme requires the murrine gtk engine installed. I also use devilspie to force certain windows into the position I want them in, but you might not care about that.

That's about it really, the wallpapers are from deviantart and their names are printed right on them so if you want those as well you shouldn't have any trouble finding them. I don't know of any guides really, it's not that hard to figure out what everything does by simple experimentation. Anyway I hope this was helpful, and happy slacking.



EDIT: As for how to change it Miranden, theme and icon settings are under appearance in xfce settings manager, and panel setup is under panel in the same. AWN settings are accessed by right-clicking on it and selecting "Dock Preferences".

Last edited by KDHofAvalon; 09-29-2012 at 04:55 PM. Reason: Added Info
 
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:13 PM   #15
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Anyway I hope this was helpful, and happy slacking.
Thank you so much, that is tremendously helpful. I have a much better idea now how to go about customizing it now. I had no idea where to start before. You have really given me a whole guide. After going and doing some of this though I think though that part of my issue is that there may be a genuine problem with my display thats just making it look bad, so I am going to start a thread of my own here soon. Hopefully the OP finds this info about customizing xfce useful too!

Good night everybody and enjoy Slackware 14!
 
  


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