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Philip Lacroix 07-26-2013 11:12 AM

Slackware 14.1 available for pre-order and subscription
 
Hi all,

the friendly folks at the Slackware store have made the coming 14.1 release available for pre-order and subscription. In fact I wanted to subscribe starting with the next release, I just asked and they added it in no time. Thanks!

All the best,
Philip

brianL 07-26-2013 02:03 PM

We must be nearly there.
Are we?
Are we there yet?
:)

Jeebizz 07-26-2013 02:33 PM

I still say 14.1 should be a 20th Anniversary Special Edition... With Bob Dobbs printed on the discs, or a 'bonus' dvd that has the Arise Subgenius movie :D.

thirdm 07-26-2013 03:13 PM

Is there an advantage to pre-ordering? I'm thinking maybe I'll wait for the slackpack and get a physical copy of the book, being somewhat new to slackware and not having so many internet connected devices that a physical reference couldn't be helpful someday.

hitest 07-26-2013 03:22 PM

Having a subsctiption is a very good thing as it helps to generate a nice revenue stream for Pat. I have a subscription and I am looking forward to the arrival of 14.1. :)

Philip Lacroix 07-26-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thirdm (Post 4997483)
Is there an advantage to pre-ordering?

I guess that pre-orders will help the Slackware team to have sufficient media printed after the release is out, and those pre-orders will be shipped along with (or right after) the subscriptions. Subscribers are the first to receive a new release.

samac 07-26-2013 04:30 PM

It would be nice if the physical discs were available before the download version as an incentive and reward.

samac

irgunII 07-26-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 4997455)
I still say 14.1 should be a 20th Anniversary Special Edition... With Bob Dobbs printed on the discs, or a 'bonus' dvd that has the Arise Subgenius movie :D.

YES!! This!!

TracyTiger 07-26-2013 07:22 PM

Current is Slackware Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samac (Post 4997522)
It would be nice if the physical discs were available before the download version as an incentive and reward.

While your idea may have merit, it won't work with the currently used development/release process for Slackware.

As you know, Slackware -current (which is always available for download) is magically relabeled and becomes the next Slackware release (14.1).

hitest 07-26-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracy Tiger (Post 4997605)
While your idea may have merit, it won't work with the currently used development/release process for Slackware.

As you know, Slackware -current (which is always available for download) is magically relabeled and becomes the next Slackware release (14.1).

Pat graciously provides torrents for each stable release of Slackware when released and as you say -current is always available for download. I will be running Slackware 14.1 long before I receive my Slackware 14.1 DVD from Pat. I choose to support the software that I love. I urge all Slackers to take a look at the items for sale at the Slackware store and think about buying something.

digger95 07-27-2013 03:13 PM

I'm so enamored with Slackware 14.0 I'm not sure I even want to upgrade. What's new and exciting with 14.1?

hitest 07-27-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by digger95 (Post 4998051)
What's new and exciting with 14.1?

Slackware-current is stable, fast, and secure. I am liking it a lot. :)

Code:

Linux odin 3.9.10-smp #2 SMP Tue Jul 16 02:34:03 CDT 2013 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

willysr 07-27-2013 08:04 PM

More exciting news can be seen on the ChangeLog

Habitual 07-27-2013 10:44 PM

As long as the T-Shirts and Polos stay Black I'm happy.

gargamel 07-28-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 4997455)
I still say 14.1 should be a 20th Anniversary Special Edition... With Bob Dobbs printed on the discs, or a 'bonus' dvd that has the Arise Subgenius movie :D.

Yes, that would be nice!

I once suggested to the store people to offer "virtual" subscriptions, because postage and customs fees are so high for shipping to some countries. I have a fast enough internet connection, supported by some US government agencies ;), so there's no use in sending physical discs. Because neither me nor Pat or the store people get any benefit from me paying those incredibly expensive fees.

But I'd definitely wouldn't want to miss the jubilee special pack of discs, including the director's cut of the movie mentioned above and all the funny out-takes. ;)

gargamel

ruario 07-28-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 4998397)
I once suggested to the store people to offer "virtual" subscriptions, because postage and customs fees are so high for shipping to some countries. I have a fast enough internet connection, supported by some US government agencies ;), so there's no use in sending physical discs. Because neither me nor Pat or the store people get any benefit from me paying those incredibly expensive fees.

@gargamel: Just do a donation every time a new release comes out.

solarfields 07-28-2013 04:32 PM

I want a Slackware/Bob T-shirt :)

Jeebizz 07-28-2013 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 4998397)
But I'd definitely wouldn't want to miss the jubilee special pack of discs, including the director's cut of the movie mentioned above and all the funny out-takes. ;)

gargamel

We can petition Pat, then again he does frequent the forums.... The only snag is the copyright. Yes I do see the Bob Dobbs head on the penguin in the propaganda section on slackware.com, but printing Bob Dobbs on the discs is something else, because at that point it is being sold, so Pat does need to talk with Rev. Ivan Stang, even if just including a copy of the Arise Subgenius movie only that still has to have the ok from the Church... Who knows, I'm sure Pat would like this idea too, but the stumbling block is getting the OK for something like this.

*sigh*, one can only hope and dream... Still, it wouldn't hurt to petition Pat.... :)

chemfire 07-28-2013 06:37 PM

Maybe I am just old school but I still like to have an nice shiny disk, put in my pre-order!

kikinovak 07-29-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 4998397)
Yes, that would be nice!

I once suggested to the store people to offer "virtual" subscriptions, because postage and customs fees are so high for shipping to some countries. I have a fast enough internet connection, supported by some US government agencies ;), so there's no use in sending physical discs.

Actually, there is. CDs and DVDs from the store are "pressed" and not "burnt". I'm using the Slackware installation discs pretty much every day, and the original discs from the store are much more reliable.

gargamel 07-29-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kikinovak (Post 4999029)
Actually, there is. CDs and DVDs from the store are "pressed" and not "burnt". I'm using the Slackware installation discs pretty much every day, and the original discs from the store are much more reliable.

I didn't know that, interesting. Actually I had no problems with the DVDs I burnt from the ISOs...
So there's added value in the physical discs, especially when used frequently. For my 3 to 5 machines, the self-burnt ISOs are good enough, however, it appears. So, for me, it's questionable, if the high costs for postage and customs are really justified. YMMV.

gargamel

gargamel 07-29-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario (Post 4998467)
@gargamel: Just do a donation every time a new release comes out.

I actually thought/think about this. Maybe for 14.2/15.0.

gargamel

volkerdi 07-29-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 4998521)
We can petition Pat, then again he does frequent the forums.... The only snag is the copyright. Yes I do see the Bob Dobbs head on the penguin in the propaganda section on slackware.com, but printing Bob Dobbs on the discs is something else, because at that point it is being sold, so Pat does need to talk with Rev. Ivan Stang, even if just including a copy of the Arise Subgenius movie only that still has to have the ok from the Church... Who knows, I'm sure Pat would like this idea too, but the stumbling block is getting the OK for something like this.

*sigh*, one can only hope and dream... Still, it wouldn't hurt to petition Pat.... :)

Stang is an old friend, and he'd probably give the idea an OK. But IMHO it is not a good idea. I think some people mistakenly think that there's some close ties between Slackware and the SubGenius, but that's not the case, nor would it be good for marketing in general. They adopted me far more than I adopted them, and it's been years since I've attended an X-Day gathering or seen any of those folks in person. I do personally find a lot of their stuff amusing, but a lot more people find it offensive and this project does not endorse anything that they say or do. Slackware is not intended to be Linux for the SubGenius. It is intended to be Linux for anyone that appreciates the traditional UNIX-like ways of doing things, isn't afraid of the command line, wants the supplied packages to be as unmodified as possible, and likes to be able to expand the system through source code without tossing a wrench into the package manager.

audriusk 07-29-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 4999068)
I actually thought/think about this. Maybe for 14.2/15.0.

Don't overthink too much, just do it! :) (Of course, if your finances allow you to.)

Since my debit card can't be accepted (tried a couple of times), but works fine with PayPal, I do donate whenever I can. Having physical install disks is not important to me, all Slackware installations I've done the last few years were over network. I just keep ISO images to share them over LAN from one of my computers for this task.

Speaking about alternative ways to donate, how about Gittip? It's a website which allows to set up small weekly donations and support people and projects you love. Would be a nice addition to the revenue from CD/DVD and merchandise sales. Of course, Patrick would first have to opt in for this to work. But if he did, I'd happily donate over Gittip.

kikinovak 07-29-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi (Post 4999079)
Slackware is not intended to be Linux for the SubGenius. It is intended to be Linux for anyone that appreciates the traditional UNIX-like ways of doing things, isn't afraid of the command line, wants the supplied packages to be as unmodified as possible, and likes to be able to expand the system through source code without tossing a wrench into the package manager.

I think this is the most compact, spot-on and beautiful definition of Slackware I've ever read. I actually laughed out loud eurêka-style while reading it.

Habitual 07-29-2013 02:52 PM

This is Slackware. Do anything you want.

Do I have to purchase a new subscription for each release?
I may need to declare Pat as a dependent...

Philip Lacroix 07-29-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi (Post 4999079)
Slackware is not intended to be Linux for the SubGenius. It is intended to be Linux for anyone that appreciates the traditional UNIX-like ways of doing things, isn't afraid of the command line, wants the supplied packages to be as unmodified as possible, and likes to be able to expand the system through source code without tossing a wrench into the package manager.

Great definition, thanks for that!
Philip

gargamel 07-29-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audriusk (Post 4999089)
Don't overthink too much, just do it! :) (Of course, if your finances allow you to.)

[...]


So let me put this straight: I was thinking about donations as a *replacement* for my subscription. But I made my decision: I'll stick with the subscription, and extend it with an order of a little merchandise occasionally. :)

gargamel

ReaperX7 07-29-2013 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi (Post 4999079)
Slackware is not intended to be Linux for the SubGenius. It is intended to be Linux for anyone that appreciates the traditional UNIX-like ways of doing things, isn't afraid of the command line, wants the supplied packages to be as unmodified as possible, and likes to be able to expand the system through source code without tossing a wrench into the package manager.

It may not be "Linux for the SubGenius", but Slackware is pure Genius in method, design, and operation.

The disk art should be in the spirit of Slackware... something magnificent, something pure, and something utterly brilliant in simplicity... my suggestion...

"Slackware... Linux so simple... you don't even need to think about it."

It kinda pays some homage to another by-gone Linux from the days of old, Yggdrasil Linux.

nick_th_fury 07-30-2013 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaperX7 (Post 4999330)
It kinda pays some homage to another by-gone Linux from the days of old, Yggdrasil Linux.

Wow, haven't thought about that in a long while. Still have the Green Bible when I was running it with Dos.
Spent countless hours learning since every prepress workstation I was using either used AIX or RMX. Tried Slackware after a really good friend set me up on his ftp. Rekindled my interest back in 2000ish. Now I find dep managers just so much harder. I hate trying to find out what just happened. Version 10.2 was pretty much my fav until 14. It's hands down the easiest OS I've ever used.

Pre-ordered a copy of 14.1 yesterday to try & say thanks.

jostber 11-06-2013 04:28 AM

Loved the design of the 14.0 T-Shirt. :) https://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/...z6RDJ&mv_pc=35 Would like something like for 14.1 as well. :)

GazL 11-06-2013 04:29 AM

Mayan apocalypses don't come around every year! ;)

jostber 11-06-2013 04:29 AM

It can be a bit hard to spot the Slackware store at the Slackware.com site. Should it be one of the links in the left frame?

GazL 11-06-2013 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jostber (Post 5059223)
It can be a bit hard to spot the Slackware store at the Slackware.com site. Should it be one of the links in the left frame?

IMO yes. I've noticed this before too.

mjjzf 11-06-2013 05:32 AM

I buy the CDs to have the souvenir and do the first install with those.
Having said that, I have frequently used the DVD ISO from USB - maybe it would be interesting to sell Slackware-labeled USB sticks in the store? That would give install medium and merchandise in one.

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