I'll be patient/cautious/chicken and wait for the final release of 13.1.

If you've stuck with the stock kde (assuming you are a kde user) since 13 you are in for quite a treat. Even running Eric's kde packages through 4.4.2, I am quite impressed with the updated packages (I love the new amarok) in 4.4.3.

No, I've had vbatts' KDE 4.3.1 for quite a while.

Yeah, I was using those on my semi-stock box until this beta. The kde package really is quite nice.

The only sad thing when a stable release gets released are the few packages released in -current, before current starts a little time should pass :-P and I'm not so patient to break and adjust my system again

Hi there KDE users,

I have noticed a setting form FORM FACTOR where options are "Desktop" and "Netbook". I tried Netbook and it looks cool. However, all applications that I launched does not have the close button on top, no minimize, no maximize. Maybe because of that Netbook form factor thing, but I found it a bit annoying.

Just patched up compiz to work with beta1 (KDE 4.4.3) and all is now perfect. This is going to be a great release.

Netbook is a completly different 'front end' or 'desktop' experience, adjusted to small screens and 'mobile' use ( only a trackpad, netbook on your lap, in train, bar or car, and very lean hardware. Thus, if you use it on a normal desktop, you might think you're back at kindergarten. You ought not to be multitasking

I think you should have close and maximize/unmaximize buttons to the far right on the autohiding top menubar. If not, try adding that plasmoid. I don't remember the name of it now though.

Alt-F3 or edit kwinrc and set
BorderlessMaximizedWindows=false (according to http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=86221)

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I've been running 13.1 Beta 1 x86_64 for two days now on my HP G60 laptop. I've been trying to use every app from the default full install to see what bugs I can find. No problems yet, but then I haven't run _everything_ ...just the KDE desktop so far. The only non-stock items I've added have been mplayer-codecs, flash-player-plugin, vlc and the libdvd*_SBos. Inkscape & LyX will have to wait another day (or two), but otherwise, I'm a happy camper.

Kudos to Eric, Robby, Pat & everybody else who's made it possible (and especially KDE SC 4.4.3 and the whole polkit-1 thing...thanks PiterPUNK & NaCl...).

Molly H.
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@sjampoo, @unehed, @pg99:

Thanks for the answers. I think I'm going to stick to Desktop form factor.

That's going to be a problem

I read this over. It is pretty detailed and should help a lot. You might want to look at para 2. It's a bit dense and I didn't understand the reference to the /dev/disk/by... Is there a background reference on that?

ls -l /dev/disk/by-*

should produce a list of links which point to various bits of your diskage. I find the /dev/disk/by-id handiest. STFW turns up more or less helpful things - I wasn't able to find a defintive 'udev doc by Kroah-Hartman that's less than five years old' - http://www.linux.com/news/hardware/p...ls/180950-udev may be okay. Basically, it's just a udev way to access your stuff in a way that doesn't change like /dev/sd* and friends can. Like, on the box I'm on, the last three times I've tried to access my external hd it's been sdb, sdf, and sdg, but it's always /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WDC_blahblah.

edit: FWIW, I thought the section was pretty clear - could you say what it was about the reference that you didn't understand? Would changing

the persistent symlinks in /dev/disk/by-*/ instead of raw device nodes

to

the persistent symlinks in the /dev/disk/by-*/ directories which point to your device nodes instead of the raw device nodes themselves

or something like that have helped?

I've edited that block a bit - see if it's better now :-)