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Old 09-10-2007, 03:21 PM   #1
geoff.cardamone
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Question Slackware 12 on MacBook Pro


Hi all,

I have been a slack user off and on for about 5 years now. I recently purchased a new MacBook Pro because I am fed up with all the MS crap relating to Vista, and the inability to buy a laptop with XP installed without jumping through hoops (P.S. My last notebook was from PowerNotebooks.com, so I am aware of the ability to purchase a laptop sans OS). I have seen that some people have installed Ubuntu, Gentoo, FC6, and various other distro's on the MacBook, but nothing pertaining to Slackware.

So to the point of my post, does anyone know someone who has installed Slack on a MacBook, or have you done it yourself? If no one has, then I am looking for information about modifying the Slackware install DVD to include a kernel that is capable of booting properly on a MacBook. If someone could lend me a hand in getting all of this setup, or even just pointing in the direction of some good information that will help me get all of this setup, I would really appreciate it.

I have searched this site, along with a ton of Google searches relating to this topic, with pretty much no information about Slack and the MacBook. While I await an answer to this post I am going to do a little more searching about the modification of an installation DVD.

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this, even if you can't help me out.

Cheers,

Geoff C
 
Old 09-10-2007, 04:43 PM   #2
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While I haven't tried Slackware on a Intel MAC, I know we've installed Ubuntu successfully at our monthly InstallFest. Try a recent live CD like Slax or Ubuntu Feisty. That should give you an idea about what works. The big issues are driver support in the kernel, the video card and, of course, wifi.

If you do install Slackware successfully be sure to post your results to the Linux Questions HCL.

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Old 09-10-2007, 04:50 PM   #3
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I have seen that some people have installed Ubuntu, Gentoo, FC6, and various other distro's on the MacBook, but nothing pertaining to Slackware.

I have searched this site,
You must not have searched here on LQ then...

Use the search function and you get several threads, one of which I go into detail quite extensively about installing/running Slackware 11 on a MacbookPro2,2...

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Old 09-10-2007, 10:31 PM   #4
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I'm as big a fan of Slack as any (been using it since the kernel 0.9x days a hundred years ago), but I'm confused - would you dual-boot Slack and OS X, or abandon OS X entirely? If the latter, can I ask why? My wife has a MacBook, and I'm more than just a little jealous now. I don't think I'd abandon OS X, if I had it.

But then, I used to be a NeXT guru in a previous life, so maybe OS X is in my blood...
 
Old 09-11-2007, 03:19 AM   #5
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Well, you'd never want to abandon OSX just because of the fact that you couldn't do firmware updates any more. Don't think Apple is going to make them available as Linux binaries... Besides, OSX is still a nice OS even if you use Linux all the time, still nice to have the option.
 
Old 09-11-2007, 11:17 AM   #6
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I am not seeking to remove OS X entirely, I would just like to have the ability to use either OS.

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You must not have searched here on LQ then...

Use the search function and you get several threads, one of which I go into detail quite extensively about installing/running Slackware 11 on a MacbookPro2,2...
I am actually looking to run slack 12 on MacBook Pro v2. However the threads are somewhat helpful. I was able install Slack12 right from the default DVD using the hughsmp kernel. I am looking to make a custom kernel based off of this website. I am running into some issue applying the patches, however I think that I should be able to get something up and running by the end of the day today. The v2 MacBook also uses a NVIDIA card, not an ATI so I should not have too many problems with graphics. I will post up some results when I finish things up.
 
Old 09-11-2007, 03:18 PM   #7
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How about trying this link:-

http://slackintosh.workaround.ch/
 
Old 09-11-2007, 06:17 PM   #8
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How about trying this link:-

http://slackintosh.workaround.ch/
That's PPC... Won't run on a Macbook or any new Mac for that matter. Apple went with Intel chips a year ago instead of the long time Motorola/IBM...

Also, the Nvidia based Macbook Pro's are version 3... They are on 3,1 right now.
 
Old 09-11-2007, 06:28 PM   #9
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@geoff, make sure you install synaptics and pommed. Makes things alot nicer. People were having serious issues with the nvidia driver when the new MBP3,1's came out but I'm sure the latest binary driver works by now. Madwifi has support for the wireless card but hasn't made it into a release yet I believe. gigabit eth should still use the kernel sky2 module.

All and all, things have gotten alot better in the past year. I had to fight like hell to get things working on my 2,2 when I first bought it. That thread that I hijacked "Slack on a Mac?" was a progressive learning type of thread for me so it is tedious to read through...

Power management and heat were serious issues under linux though... I sold mine due to that. That and the crappy ATI drivers... The 15" superdrives are also crap IMO... 9.5 form factor which are basically flawed expiermental drives.. My overall expierence with the MBP was pretty bad under Linux. Hope you have better luck. I bought a used G4 powerbook to replace it...
 
Old 09-11-2007, 11:38 PM   #10
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Jong,

Thanks for all of the good informantion, you really seem to have slot of k owledge about these machines. I am currently have big issues with the nvidia drivers, a well as the nv OSS driver. The ng driver just blacks my screen and I need to hold the power button in order to reboot, and the nvidia driver gives me weird color issues where everything looks like a rainbow. I'll let you know when I make some progress
 
Old 09-12-2007, 04:00 PM   #11
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Go sift through the mactel mailing lists and you might be able to get some information between all the spam concerning the nvidia card. How did you come up with your initial xorg.conf? Do a "Xorg -Configure" instead of using Slackware's...
 
Old 12-29-2011, 12:39 AM   #12
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Do you have some documentation over Darwin

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I'm as big a fan of Slack as any (been using it since the kernel 0.9x days a hundred years ago), but I'm confused - would you dual-boot Slack and OS X, or abandon OS X entirely? If the latter, can I ask why? My wife has a MacBook, and I'm more than just a little jealous now. I don't think I'd abandon OS X, if I had it.

But then, I used to be a NeXT guru in a previous life, so maybe OS X is in my blood...
Hello fella,

I read your message and I am not new on slackware but not a guru. So I just acquire a Macbook Pro MD318E, so now I have a lot of nights to learn about the Darwin kernel 11v and this BSD Unix-like system.

I have searched on the web have some documentation about this platform without success. I know plenty of commands for Linux that do not work on Darwin, like "lspci". There is some books on amazon but with very old Darwin version.

So, Can you help me to get some thick documentation how to interact with prompt on a OS X using Darwin. In fact I am trying to run Linux based open source software using Macports without success.

Best regards.
 
Old 12-30-2011, 12:54 AM   #13
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@darklink:
Are you asking about Darwin itself, or about using cli on Mac OS X?

If you are asking about standalone Darwin, there were FOSS projects that aimed to build standalone Darwin distributions (OpenDarwin, PureDarwin), but it seemed they didn't have enough support from Apple.

If you are asking about Mac OS X, macports work just normally. I tried on my friend's computer and successfuly installed several apps. As Mac OS X doesn't use Linux kernel or (for the most part) GNU userland, Linux specific utilties won't work under Mac OS X. You can find a lot of info on Mac OS X specific commands on the net. As Mac OS X's userland is supposedly based on FreeBSD userland, you could also try browsing through FreeBSD docs. You could also browse the Bash docs, as it is the main shell under Mac OS X (not sure what FreeBSD uses, I think (not sure) NetBSD and OpenBSD use a version of pdksh - long time since I've last played with that).

Anyways this question doesn't look like it has anything to do with Slack.

Last edited by bobzilla; 12-30-2011 at 01:03 AM.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 03:41 AM   #14
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@darklink:
Are you asking about Darwin itself, or about using cli on Mac OS X?

If you are asking about standalone Darwin, there were FOSS projects that aimed to build standalone Darwin distributions (OpenDarwin, PureDarwin), but it seemed they didn't have enough support from Apple.

If you are asking about Mac OS X, macports work just normally. I tried on my friend's computer and successfuly installed several apps. As Mac OS X doesn't use Linux kernel or (for the most part) GNU userland, Linux specific utilties won't work under Mac OS X. You can find a lot of info on Mac OS X specific commands on the net. As Mac OS X's userland is supposedly based on FreeBSD userland, you could also try browsing through FreeBSD docs. You could also browse the Bash docs, as it is the main shell under Mac OS X (not sure what FreeBSD uses, I think (not sure) NetBSD and OpenBSD use a version of pdksh - long time since I've last played with that).

Anyways this question doesn't look like it has anything to do with Slack.
I am talking about using darwin kernel in Mac OS X environment, you now that using terminal commands is much faster than mouse. Actually I do not find any good reference or tutorial to read about Darwin kernel in mac. The best that I found is this. http://www.geekyard.com/mac/list-of-...inal-commands/. I was hopping more over the kind of documentation like www.tldp.org.

In addition, using mac ports is quite easy but, I just do not have success to install applications. For example aircrack-ng says that using mac ports you can install it but I fail.

Best regards.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 08:44 AM   #15
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Darwin is not the kernel. Darwin is the (mostly) open source base of Mac OS X. The kernel is xnu. Anyways, this might give you more info:
http://developer.apple.com/library/m...anpages.5.html
http://developer.apple.com/library/m...roduction.html
http://developer.apple.com/library/m...ts/_index.html

You might also want to take a look at the books such as this:
http://www.sobell.com/OSX1/index.html

Anyways your question is "slightly" offtopic on a forum for the specific Linux distro (or Linux at all). You might try asking your question on some Mac related forums.

Btw, you might need sudo to actually install apps from macports.
 
  


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