From today's changelog:

"For the last several days we have been building and testing the very newest X updates, and it seems that the more intrusive updates are probably best left to develop until sometime after the coming -stable Slackware 12.2 release."

This sounds good!

Hi,

It will be here when it's ready. I think PV adds these notes to give hope an interest.

Patience!

Agreed. 12.2 will be here when it is ready:-) I can wait:-) This will be another excellent version of Slackware!

Yep, leave all that "N days to Release" hype and nonsense to Ubuntu.

What does this actually mean for Xorg in 12.2? What are the 'intrusive' parts?

I think it means that the newest Xorg will only be part of testing/ after 12.2 released.

This answers one question some of us might have been asking.
The next Slack release will be 12.2 not 13.

Chris

Hi,

I don't think the version major level change makes any difference as long as it remains 'Slackware®' with at least some '##.#'.

If the new Slackware® release is 13 then so be it. It's stills Slackware®.

To make a long story short, we're not quite ready to use the HAL-based automatic configuration of input devices, as research on that indicates there's still some issues with it for quite a few users. However, the "old" way doesn't work as expected in all cases either, probably (but not certainly) due to the expectation that the HAL-based configuration will be present. At this point, the time required to get the xorg-server 1.5.x-based packages up to our usual standards would likely be extensive, so the decision was made to stay with 1.4.2 for Slackware 12.2.

Yeah, for example hal mouse input detection is bad and it's hard to configure correctly.

Thanks for the clarification Robby. As someone who isn't all that keen on hal in the first place and avoids it wherever possible, staying with the old version a little while longer suits me just fine.

If the new Xorg recognizes your video system it is beautiful, but if not there is no longer the ability to use a modeline to manually define the parameters. Lots of problems with the widescreen displays as well as lots of legacy card and monitor systems. Particularly with Intel video.

Robert McBroom

I have a technical question for the developers. I run Slackware 12.1 on older hardware. I have a Plll 667 unit and an 850 Celeron. Will Slackware 12.2 run on older gear?
I'm not complaining, mind you!!
If Slackware 12.2 is optimized for higher-end hardware I can stick with 12.1. Heh, this may be the time to buy a shiny new Slack box:-)

There will not be any difference in hardware requirements between Slackware 12.1 and 12.2 as far as I can see at this moment.
This may change when KDE3 goes out and KDE4 is introduced but that will not be soon, and certainly not in Slackware 12.2.

When KDE4 is introduced, it will be interesting to have some benchmarks because Qt4 (which is the GUI toolkit that KDE4 build on) should require less resources than Qt3 (the graphical toolkit used in KDE3).

Eric

Awesome!!! Thank you for the reply, Eric:-) I appreciate that a lot. Cool:-)

Any chance it would be provided in /testing?