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Old 06-17-2004, 12:06 AM   #1
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Slackware 10RC1 Troubles


OK...

I've just installed Slackware 10RC1...

I know, it's not official... That's why I installed it beside 2 other Linux partition and one Windows's...

OK... My Prob:

I ran alsaconf (after reboot of installation) under root... Detected my card. Everything was running ok for alsa...

Then I try alsamixer and it reports: No mixer elems found

when checking lsmod, everything is there and also in /etc/modules.conf (like my Slack9.1 installation wich works great)...

and i have /dev/mixer* and /dev/dsp* with good permission (even root doesn't work either anyway!).

Any idea?
 
Old 06-17-2004, 12:12 AM   #2
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I had same exact problem after updating slack.
I just installed the newest alsa version (see my sig) and it fixed it, also did you make sure to setup the sound system? I had to also reenable the module for my sound card.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 12:45 AM   #3
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alsa site...

I think it's not my day... alsa-project.org don't allow me to connect... Argh!

I HOPE this will be corrected before the 10.0 release!!!
 
Old 06-17-2004, 12:57 AM   #4
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It must be down, I havent been able to connect for about 2 hours now.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 10:16 AM   #5
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Exclamation Alsa versions

OK... I've checked the packages at alsa-project.org but it's same version as those shipped with Slackware 10RC1!!! (1.0.5a, ...)

Do i really need to compile/install every bit and pieces of Alsa???
 
Old 06-17-2004, 10:51 AM   #6
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Try cat /proc/alsa or /proc/asound (it's one of those, or something similar). You'll probably get something like "no cards found" despite the fact that media players work fine (using OSS emulation anyway) and the module is loaded.

The same thing happened to me using Debian some time ago. The problems went away when I installed a custom 2.6 kernel.

I use a custom 2.6 kernel with Slackware 10rc1, so I can't be of much more help.

Installing the alsa drivers manually from alsa-project.org may help though.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 11:03 AM   #7
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im running slackware current with kernel 2.6.6 i was having probs like that, my solution was to compile all sound as modules in my kernel (alsa, my soundcard etc.) whenever i udes to make them static in the kernel i never ever had sound... hope that might help.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 11:30 AM   #8
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It depends on what kernel version you're running (2.4.x, 2.6.x, or custom). If you are using 2.4.x you must install the alsa-driver package that is compiled for that kernel, otherwise no sound. If you are using 2.6.x, you must install the alsa-driver in testing/. Everytime you update the kernel package you must update alsa-driver as well. This is because the alsa modules are in /lib/modules/2.y.x (y = 4 or 6) and are specific to that kernel version. As an example, kernel 2.6.7 was put in testing/. My alsa modules are in 2.6.6 right now. When I update the kernel packages it will expect the alsa modules to be in 2.6.7. So I need to update the alsa-driver package to put the alsa modules in the right place.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 11:39 AM   #9
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Thanx Nis that was some valuable info! ill add that to my archive of useful tips
 
Old 06-17-2004, 11:45 AM   #10
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You're welcome.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 12:07 PM   #11
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Hmm, yeh thanks Nis; I'm learning :)

So are there many more things that need to be recompiled for a 2.6.x kernel - I imagine that Slack10 will be released with a 2.4 kernel, so will it be a case of :

removepkg alsa-driver
installpkg kernel-headers-2.6.7 + kernel-generic-2.6.7
instalpkg alsa-driver-recompiled etc..

Maybe I'll just stick with 2.4 to keep things simple :/

Steve
 
Old 06-17-2004, 12:35 PM   #12
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Exclamation ORIGINAL QUESTION..

OK... I'll be more specific for my problem since the original question seem's to be confusing for some of you... (it's my fault)...

I DIDN'T ALTER MY KERNEL OR WHATEVER when installing Slackware 10RC1:

I only installed the defaults (which is kernel 2.4.26 + Alsa 1.0.5a for the driver... Which both are the included default packages from the installation ISO)...

I did check the /proc/asound:

I82801DBICH4 -> card1
Modem -> card0
card0 (dir)
card1 (dir)
cards
devices
modules
oss (dir)
pcm
seq (dir)
timers
version (witch reported that Alsa 1.0.5a was compiled on Jun 13 2004 for kernel 2.4.26)

So anyone has tried this 10RC1 and got audio problems without touching the standard installed 2.4.26 kernel and Alsa 1.0.5a packages???
 
Old 06-17-2004, 01:24 PM   #13
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Lightbulb PROBLEM CORRECTED...

Finally found a workaround in another thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=170919

It seems like when there's a modem on i8x0, it load the module snd-intel8x0m... This get's the card0 slot and puts the real sound card into card1 slot... This problem is comming from the new kernel 2.4.26...

So, the idea is to get the real sound card (currently card1 slot) into the card0 slot... by disabling the snd-intel8x0m module... just insert the line snd-intel8x0m at the end of the file: /etc/hotplug/blacklist...

That was the only thing to do...

A chance that i've found this before going into the whole compile-sheebang...!

Regards,
Ti-Paul.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 03:27 PM   #14
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Yep, that would do it, and makes sense looking back at /proc/asound:

Code:
I82801DBICH4 -> card1
Modem -> card0
*files that away for later use*
 
Old 06-18-2004, 09:39 AM   #15
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New module in 2.4.26 - modem?

(1) Anobody has some information regarding the new module "snd-intel8x0m" that is now included since the 2.4.26 kernel??? (Slack-Current / 10RC1)

This module is loaded by my hotplug on my Dell Inspiron 5150 laptop... Because of my internal modem "Intel 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)"..... my chipset is 855GM/GME...

(2) Since this module take the first slot in ALSA (card0) and puts my real audio card into the second (card1), are do we set by default the second card instead of the first one. (ALSA)

Thanks.
 
  


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