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Old 11-29-2004, 09:36 AM   #1
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slackware 10 sound blaster live problem


I am new to Linux, but I love it.

I have looked through the posted messages on sound and have not found anything that I recognized as the solution to this particular problem.

I recently purchased a Sound Blaster Live sound card and installed the hardware, afterwords I could not figure out how to get it working, so I reinstalled slackware 10 with all the included software. I disabled the onboard sound in the bios configuration, I am not too sure I did this correctly. I uncommented the emu10k1 line in the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules file per the installation how-to on the slackware website. Then restarted the machine. The driver is being detected on start-up. However the sound card still isn't working.

I looked on the ALSA website and concluded that I had done everything right, but saw the modprobe command, so I tried it. Here are the results:

root@slackdesk:~# modprobe emu10k1
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz: init_module: No such device
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz failed
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz: insmod emu10k1 failed

Here are the results of dmesg:

Linux version 2.4.26 (root@tree) (gcc version 3.3.4) #6 Mon Jun 14 19:07:27 PDT 2004
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 00000000077f0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 00000000077f0000 - 00000000077f3000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000077f3000 - 0000000007800000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
119MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 30704
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 26608 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=302
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 1002.289 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1998.84 BogoMIPS
Memory: 118240k/122816k available (1844k kernel code, 4188k reserved, 618k data, 120k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 128K
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Intel Celeron (Coppermine) stepping 0a
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb340, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at 00:07.0
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 00:08.0
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xdd800000, mapped to 0xc800d000, size 1536k
vesafb: mode is 1024x768x8, linelength=1024, pages=9
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:66cc
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
pty: 512 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10f
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 7777K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:07.1
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686b (rev 40) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci00:07.1
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hdaMA, hdbMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdcMA, hddio
hdb: C/H/S=38309/16/255 from BIOS ignored
hda: WDC AC29100D, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC WD800JB-00JJA0, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c03b3360, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
blk: queue c03b349c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
hdc: HL-DT-ST GCE-8160B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: host protected area => 1
hda: 17803440 sectors (9115 MB) w/1966KiB Cache, CHS=1108/255/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: attached ide-disk driver.
hdb: host protected area => 1
hdb: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=155061/16/63, UDMA(33)
hdc: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2
hdb: hdb1
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
md: linear personality registered as nr 1
md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2
md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
8regs : 1658.400 MB/sec
32regs : 954.000 MB/sec
pIII_sse : 1911.200 MB/sec
pII_mmx : 2268.400 MB/sec
p5_mmx : 2367.600 MB/sec
raid5: using function: pIII_sse (1911.200 MB/sec)
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
LVM version 1.0.8(17/11/2003)
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 16384)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
UMSDOS: msdos_read_super failed, mount aborted.
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
reiserfs: found format "3.6" with standard journal
reiserfs: checking transaction log (device ide0(3,2)) ...
for (ide0(3,2))
reiserfs: replayed 6 transactions in 1 seconds
ide0(3,2):Using r5 hash to sort names
VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 120k freed
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP,EPP]
parport0: Printer, Canon BJC-2000
parport_pc: Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 86M
agpgart: Detected Via Apollo PLE133 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xd8000000
Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20, 17:55:00 Jun 13 2004
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
reiserfs: found format "3.6" with standard journal
reiserfs: checking transaction log (device ide0(3,65)) ...
for (ide0(3,65))
reiserfs: replayed 8 transactions in 1 seconds
ide0(3,65):Using r5 hash to sort names
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:08.0
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc832f000, 00:c0:26:63:f0:f8, IRQ 11
eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:07.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:07.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:09.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:0b.0
uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd400, IRQ 10
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:07.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:07.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:09.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:0b.0
uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd800, IRQ 10
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1

As you can see the driver is detected, but I don't see the hardware.

I looked in the KDE Info center, and the hardware shows up there, so the hardware is being detected, I tried to copy the text from the KDE Info center, but it didn't work.

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling ALSA, but nothing changed. I saw that there was a problem with the slackware current where the modules were compiled for the wrong kernel version, I checked that and it appears to be O.K.

I am stumped, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Old 11-29-2004, 10:04 AM   #2
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What happens when you type:

alsaconf

Does it find the card, but afterwards it does not work? Or does it not find the card
at all? Having an SBLive card myself, on a defualt install, this gets it working - no problem.
But you did mention 'current' - so just asking a followup question.

-tw
 
Old 11-29-2004, 10:32 AM   #3
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You are trying to load the oss module, not the alsa module. Every alsa module starts with snd in the name. I think you already loaded alsa through hotplug. That's why a second driver for the same device will fail.

What's the output of lsmod ?
 
Old 11-29-2004, 07:59 PM   #4
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When I run alsaconf it doesn't find the card at all.

The results of lsmod are:

root@slackdesk:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
soundcore 3396 0 (autoclean)
uhci 24444 0 (unused)
usbcore 59308 1 [uhci]
8139too 14376 1
mii 2272 0 [8139too]
crc32 2880 0 [8139too]
ide-scsi 9328 0
agpgart 43940 0 (unused)
parport_pc 14788 1 (autoclean)
lp 6724 0
parport 23336 1 [parport_pc lp]


Thanks for your help
 
Old 11-29-2004, 08:02 PM   #5
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The emu10k1 is not among the modules listed in lsmod, so I tried modprobe snd-emu10k1 and got the same results as with modprobe emu10k1???

root@slackdesk:~# modprobe snd-emu10k1
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o.gz: init_module: No such device
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o.gz: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o.gz: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o.gz failed
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o.gz: insmod snd-emu10k1 failed
 
Old 11-30-2004, 11:26 AM   #6
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I have been working on this problem some more, and saw how to list the pci devices. Does this cast any more light on the subject?

root@slackdesk:~# lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia] (rev 05)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 8
Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0

00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: dc000000-df0fffff
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686/A PCI to ISA Bridge
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
I/O ports at d000 [size=16]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 1a) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
I/O ports at d400 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 1a) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:07.4 Class 0080: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9
Capabilities: [68] Power Management version 2

00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
I/O ports at e000 [size=4]
I/O ports at e400 [size=4]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
Subsystem: Compex FN22-3(A) LinxPRO Ethernet Adapter
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Memory at 10000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

00:09.0 Class 0403: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) (prog-if 10)
Subsystem: Adaptec: Unknown device 0510
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 9
Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

00:09.1 Class 0403: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) (prog-if 10)
Subsystem: Adaptec: Unknown device 0510
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at c0001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

00:09.2 Class 0403: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04) (prog-if 20)
Subsystem: Adaptec: Unknown device 051e
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
Memory at d0002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0007
Subsystem: Creative Labs: Unknown device 1006
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
I/O ports at ec00 [size=32]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 6a) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at dd800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M]
Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
Memory at dd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [80] AGP version 1.0
Capabilities: [90] Power Management version 1
 
Old 11-30-2004, 10:21 PM   #7
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your first post:

Quote:
I disabled the onboard sound in the bios configuration, I am not too sure I did this correctly.
your last post:

Quote:
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
I/O ports at e000 [size=4]
I/O ports at e400 [size=4]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
Looks like you didn't disable it - Try again to disable, and then try again on setting up the SBLive.
maybe? lets hope.
good luck -tw
 
Old 12-01-2004, 10:46 PM   #8
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Thanks, I forgot that I was messing with the BIOS setting before I ran lspci. I had it right the first time. I went back and disabled it and still nothing. After reading the error that occurs during the boot process I looked in the syslog file and found the following:


Dec 1 21:28:19 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0
Dec 1 21:28:19 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0
Dec 1 21:28:19 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0
Dec 1 21:28:19 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0
Dec 1 21:28:19 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1
Dec 1 21:28:20 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0
Dec 1 21:28:20 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1
Dec 1 21:28:20 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0
Dec 1 21:28:20 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-116

Not sure what this means. Any ideas?
 
Old 12-02-2004, 12:24 AM   #9
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Quote:
Dec 1 21:28:19 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0
Dec 1 21:28:19 slackdesk modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0
Turns out I have those too - as I'm sitting here listening to music

Reseached it - apparently they are harmless - and not all that uncommon.


What kernel are you running?
modified kernel or not?
What ver. of alsa is installed?

mine is:
my kernel - bareacpi- 2.4.26
unmodified
alsa ver. 1.0.5

I'm starting to run out of ideas to help.
-tw
 
Old 12-02-2004, 12:34 AM   #10
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Do a
Code:
cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -i snd_emu
and see what that says.
 
Old 12-02-2004, 12:59 AM   #11
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Yea, Thats where I would take this post.... Right to your kernel. I've seen so many threads on alsa, it makes my head spin. I had this same problem when I first bought my SB Live card. I won't interject too much and you guys keep going but, If I were you, I'd recompile your kernel to just include the very top-most sound option and remove everything else. Then re-install alsa-driver, alsaconf, alsamixer, alsactl store. 99% of the time, it's problem solved. I never had much luck with the sound column in the kernel cluttered like it defaults to.... It's even cleaner if you compile alsa-driver yourself to just include your card.

Also, it looks like you need a new pci.ids file. I hate 'unknowns' in lspci.....
 
Old 12-02-2004, 05:22 AM   #12
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From what I can see you have two problems,

1. Your on-board sound is not disabled
2. You have a 24 bit SBLive! that uses audigyls module instead of emu10k1.

First disable on-boad sound in BIOS and then go to ALSA webby and download latest version (audigyls is not included in earlier releases)

If you are sure that you HAVEN'T got a 24 bit version of SBLive! (look on the board) post back after you've killed the on-board souns and we'll fix it.
My advice though is to take the 24bit back and get a standard Live! instead
 
Old 12-22-2004, 09:26 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the help folks. otchie1 figured it out. I have a SB Live 24 bit sound card. I knew that I had a 24 bit all along, but had no idea that it required a different driver than the old 16 bit SB Live. I did not find anything anywhere else on the internet stating that the SB Live 24 bit is essentially unsuported in Linux until I started searching for the audigyls module.

Thanks again for all your help.
 
Old 01-03-2005, 10:39 AM   #14
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hey....i have the same problem...but i haven't yet figured out how did u resolved it!
can u post here a lil' howto
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