Hammer and nail work too!

tried it- same thing- gets to 'logging onto network' than the timed out error thingie... go out of X and it says something like 'can't find interface ppp0:no such interface'

well- thanks for your help. it's 4:30 in the morning here (got off of work at 1 am) so... i'm going to crash. g'night.

anymore ideas?

I'll think on that a bit.. I can say that message is a bit misleading, the system is trying to start the network interface and because the modem isn't communicating yet the interface is not available.

Not all modems play nice together, and I think this is what is happening, they're just not completely syncing up right.

well... i'm using the same modem on windows. and before i had the exact same brand (the old one that broke...) what i'm worried about -is the couple of new modifications they made to this brand modem. i'm worried they might have tweeked something under the hood and in turn broke linux support for my system. it's either the modem or linux... you know?
thanks again......

Hmm. What does windows have for the modem init string? I hope not ATZ. If it is different, write it down and put that into the kppp init1 and give it a shot. Other than that I'm out of ideas!

i thought about that idea at work today..... only thing is.... where do i find out if it's ATZ or whatever from windows? i using the dreaded micro$oft windowME.

LOL, that was my favorite flavor of MS windows. Doesn't say much does it? I think you have to go into control panel and open the modems icon. Unfortunately I don't have MS anymore so I can't walk you through it from there. You should be able to check the properties of the modem though.

i can't really find anything that seems to flat out tell me what the init thingie is... did find this here 'view log' hidden way back in there. might be informative... i see ATZ in there.... but i'm not sure really what it all means- it's kinda greek to me.......

06-19-2005 01:28:55.48 - 56SX92 V92 Analog PnP Modem in use.
06-19-2005 01:28:55.48 - Modem type: 56SX92 V92 Analog PnP Modem
06-19-2005 01:28:55.48 - Modem inf path: MOHSER.INF
06-19-2005 01:28:55.48 - Modem inf section: Install
06-19-2005 01:28:55.74 - 115200,N,8,1
06-19-2005 01:28:55.74 - 115200,N,8,1
06-19-2005 01:28:55.74 - Initializing modem.
06-19-2005 01:28:55.74 - Send: ATZ<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:55.74 - Recv: ATZ<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:55.95 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:28:55.95 - Interpreted response: Ok
06-19-2005 01:28:55.95 - Send: AT&F+IBC=0,0,0,,,,,0;+PCW=2;+PMH=1<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:55.96 - Recv: AT&F+IBC=0,0,0,,,,,0;+PCW=2;+PMH=1<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.00 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.00 - Interpreted response: Ok
06-19-2005 01:28:56.00 - Send: ATE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.01 - Recv: ATE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.04 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.04 - Interpreted response: Ok
06-19-2005 01:28:56.04 - Send: ATS7=60S30=0L1M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.08 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.08 - Interpreted response: Ok
06-19-2005 01:28:56.08 - Send: AT+IFC=2,2;BX4<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.12 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:28:56.12 - Interpreted response: Ok
06-19-2005 01:28:56.12 - Dialing.
06-19-2005 01:28:56.12 - Send: ATDT;<cr>
06-19-2005 01:28:57.96 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:28:57.96 - Interpreted response: Ok
06-19-2005 01:28:57.97 - Dialing.
06-19-2005 01:28:57.97 - Send: ATDT#######<cr>
06-19-2005 01:29:21.29 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MCR: V90<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:29:21.29 - Interpreted response: Informative
06-19-2005 01:29:21.29 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MRR: 48000<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:29:21.29 - Interpreted response: Informative
06-19-2005 01:29:21.72 - Recv: <cr><lf>+ER: LAPM<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:29:21.72 - Interpreted response: Informative
06-19-2005 01:29:21.72 - Recv: <cr><lf>+DR: V42B<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:29:21.72 - Interpreted response: Informative
06-19-2005 01:29:21.73 - Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 48000<cr><lf>
06-19-2005 01:29:21.73 - Interpreted response: Connect
06-19-2005 01:29:21.73 - Connection established at 48000bps.
06-19-2005 01:29:21.73 - Error-control on.
06-19-2005 01:29:21.73 - Data compression on.


does this help?

OK, try putting this in the init 1 line:
That is what is sent to the modem before it dials in windows.

And yes that's perfect, it shows us what the modem is receiving and how it is responding.

sigh.... nope. lol. does the exact same thing it has been doing. the 'timed out' thing

Do you have any other network interfaces running?

If so can you try disabling them? I do remember having problems with ppp not completing it's networking connection if eth0 was up.

i don't have eth0 or DSL or anything else. i got this external modem and i got an internal modem (a broadxent) the internal modem does not have a cord running into it. it shouldn't be doing anything but just sitting there. should i try taking the broadxent out of the box?

You could try it, but I don't think that will be the problem.

Do you have minicom installed? If so, fire up rxvt (or other console window) and run minicom

Once you're in minicom, just type in Substitute the number to your ISP for the x's.

Sorry... I'm interested in knowing if you connect to your ISP properly without pppd shutting everything down.

Also I did a search of "kppp timout" and others have re-installed pppd with some success.

i X'ed out and changed anything that might be offensive. anyways i don't have rxvt- but i tried out a couple of other low end ones and dud the minicom thing... this is basically what happens... i did it a couple of times and i think i hilighted the end of one/beginning of the next. basically it dials... it connects ... asks for my login and password... does the session thing... then the gibberish ...the no carrier....


login: mylogin
Password:
PPP session from (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX) to XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX beginning....~ÿ}#.!}!}!} }4}"}&} } ~
NO CARRIER
ATDTXXXXXXX
CONNECT 38400


well... it's almost 5 am and i'm about dead to the world. thanks again for helping me out. do you think i should try and reinstall kppp?
well... i off to bed. thanks again.