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Old 09-15-2005, 05:43 PM   #31
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File: slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso 652988 KB 9/15/05 20:13:00
File: slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso.asc 1 KB 9/15/05 20:13:00
File: slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso.md5 1 KB 9/15/05 20:13:00
File: slackware-10.2-install-d2.iso 474112 KB 9/15/05 22:33:00
File: slackware-10.2-install-d2.iso.asc 9/15/05 18:35:00
File: slackware-10.2-install-d2.iso.md5 9/15/05 18:35:00
Pat V is so full of it.........he said there was NOT enough room on CD2 to make it a bootable live rescue disk............there is 200 megs of wasted space on disk 2 just sitting there doing .........nothing! this was the space that Gnome was using......now it is a waste land.......LOL
 
Old 09-15-2005, 06:22 PM   #32
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My disk 2 is 645MB.
 
Old 09-15-2005, 06:28 PM   #33
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Pat V is so full of it.........he said there was NOT enough room on CD2 to make it a bootable live rescue disk............there is 200 megs of wasted space on disk 2 just sitting there doing .........nothing! this was the space that Gnome was using......now it is a waste land.......LOL
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My disk 2 is 645MB.
i concur - according to my btdownloadcurses.py it's a 645MB ISO image...

unless of course my btdownloadcurses.py is full of it... LOL...

 
Old 09-15-2005, 06:44 PM   #34
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yes but ISOs don't reflect the size of the CD once it is burned. Can someone put a really simple guide to upgrading for this newbie? (i.e. me?)
 
Old 09-15-2005, 07:10 PM   #35
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yes but ISOs don't reflect the size of the CD once it is burned.
the ISO image is an image of the data we wish to burn on the cd, so if the data you wanna make an ISO image of weighs 50MB then when you make the ISO it should also be around 50 or 51 MB, depending on the options you give the mkisofs command and the required padding, etc...

so when you burn that 51MB ISO to CD, and you mount the cd, you'll notice it has 50MB (insignificantly less than the size of the ISO)...

try with the slackware 10.1 cd1 - as you can see on any mirror, the slackware 10.1 cd1 ISO weighs 634MB...

so look what happens when i mount my slackware 10.1 cd 1:
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bash-3.00# mount /mnt/cdrom/       
bash-3.00# du -hs /mnt/cdrom/
633M    /mnt/cdrom/
bash-3.00# df -hT
Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 reiserfs    4.7G  4.4G  309M  94% /
/dev/hdb1 reiserfs     38G   29G  9.1G  76% /mnt/hd
/dev/sr0   iso9660    634M  634M     0 100% /mnt/cdrom
besides, freakyg had the correct size for the cd 1 ISO:
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File: slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso 652988 KB 9/15/05 20:13:00
it's just that freakyg's reported size for cd 2 doesn't match the official ISO:
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File: slackware-10.2-install-d2.iso 474112 KB 9/15/05 22:33:00

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Old 09-15-2005, 07:12 PM   #36
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Yes but for example some ISOs are over 700MB but still fit on a CD. Back on topic though, can someone post a painless upgrade guide? I have 10.1 installed and want to get updated because trying to update KDE to 3.4.2 on 10.1 a week ago messed it up and I really have almost no experience with Linux.
 
Old 09-15-2005, 07:33 PM   #37
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Yes but for example some ISOs are over 700MB but still fit on a CD.
AFAIK none of the reasons why that happens is because "ISOs don't reflect the size of the CD once it is burned"... ISOs - being the images that they are - are a faithful representation of the data that will go on the disc... i might be mistaken, but AFAIK if you have a 600MB ISO image and you burn it, you can expect the resulting data on the disc to be "600MB minus the size of the iso metadata"... so if you buy a "700MB" cd-r and you manage to properly burn a 710MB ISO image to it without any data loss/corruption then i would assume the "700MB" cd-r actually had a little more space on it... i would appreciate any light shed on this by someone who's actually sure about the issue...

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can someone post a painless upgrade guide? I have 10.1 installed and want to get updated because trying to update KDE to 3.4.2 on 10.1 a week ago messed it up and I really have almost no experience with Linux.
have you looked at the UPGRADE.TXT file??

http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-10.2/UPGRADE.TXT


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Old 09-15-2005, 07:44 PM   #38
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oh heh thanks. Yes, I think that is due to metadata that some ISOs are above 700MB, like I have seen ISOs that are 720MB but I am pretty sure they get smaller once you burn it somehow.

Oh wait I'm very confused can I do all that in KDE or do I have to quite KDE? I would rather be able to do it from Konsole than going into pure console, because it feels more powerful and easy to wreck things. Will this overwrite my existing LILO setup? I had to modify it to get Windows to boot so I don't want to lose that and have to set it up again.

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Old 09-15-2005, 08:22 PM   #39
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Oh wait I'm very confused can I do all that in KDE or do I have to quite KDE?
you will need to do the first part in runlevel 1 (single-user mode):
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0. Put your machine in single-user mode:
telinit 1
for the rest you'll need to be in multi-user mode (runlevel 3):
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7. Return to multi-user mode:
telinit 3
i suggest you do it by the book and forget about doing any of this from within kde...
 
Old 09-15-2005, 08:47 PM   #40
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oh ok. but how do I know which parts to download? should I download the entire CD1 or just packages from the package browser? How would that work anyway?
 
Old 09-15-2005, 11:03 PM   #41
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Excellent!!
I've been waiting for this moment for some time! Right on:-)
 
Old 09-15-2005, 11:10 PM   #42
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oh ok. but how do I know which parts to download? should I download the entire CD1 or just packages from the package browser? How would that work anyway?
your best bet right now is to download both ISOs via BitTorrent:

http://www.slackware.com/torrents/
 
Old 09-15-2005, 11:18 PM   #43
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Are you sure I need both? I think CD2 is only necessary for extra things. Oh wait- is KDE on CD2? Oops, never mind then. Argh, I just installed 10.1 a few weeks ago too. Downloading...

Oh hey wait people said things like using swaret and slapt to upgrade, that sounds much easier and won't waste 2 CDs. Can someone post a tutorial on how to do that, or is that little modification all that is needed? I'll check it out on the weekend, 2 AP classes and 2 honors are really sucking the life out of me.

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Old 09-15-2005, 11:26 PM   #44
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Are you sure I need both? I think CD2 is only necessary for extra things. Oh wait- is KDE on CD2? Oops, never mind then. Argh, I just installed 10.1 a few weeks ago too. Downloading...

Oh hey wait people said things like using swaret and slapt to upgrade, that sounds much easier and won't waste 2 CDs. Can someone post a tutorial on how to do that, or is that little modification all that is needed? I'll check it out on the weekend, 2 AP classes and 2 honors are really sucking the life out of me.
well, yeah, if you use stuff like swaret or whatever to do it then you don't need to download the ISOs, as the tool will download the necessary packages... and yeah, kde is on the second cd...

i'm sorry i can't give you any info or tips about upgrading and stuff, i've honestly never tried it, i always just backup my documents, configs, and build scripts, and then re-install the new slackware version with the install cd(s)...
 
Old 09-15-2005, 11:46 PM   #45
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if you have slapt-get then check my first post in this thread. its incredibly easy.. actually requires you to change 1 character in a file.
 
  


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