Slackware 10.2 Released!
 

See the changelog: (It's not on the slackware main page yet)
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Tue Sep 13 12:24:53 PDT 2005
Slackware 10.2 is released.
Thanks to everyone to helped make it possible.
Enjoy! :-)

Nice!! Time to sync... :)

Thanks, PV! I look forward to receiving my subscription CD's soon.

Damnit!!! I just installed Slackware 10.1 . . . I guess it's not that bad then, as I won't have anything saved so I won't lose anything to remove it and install 10.2.

Good-job Patrick :).

Thats cool, but I myself am waiting for Slackware11, so right now I am still running 10.0 , and I hope I can try following the upgrade.txt from 10 to 11 when it comes out.:D

Great!!! I hope i'll receive the cd soon. I bought some stuff & tee-shirt and i gonna wear it 24/24 ^^.

So was gnome cut or not?

yes

ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackwar.../RELEASE_NOTES

Torrents are out!
Remember to be a polite Slacker and seed till your ISP bleeds :D

crespo, you should be able to leave your current install and use a package management tool (ie slapt-get || swaret) and upgrade fully to 10.2... someone please correct me if not?

i just heard that 10.2 is released, so i came on and edited my /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc file so that it points to the 10.2 location isntead of 10.1, and slapt is currently upgrading me to 10.2 :)
is the line i edited (changed a 1 to a 2, i wish M$ was this easy)

+699mb :eek:

Not all of the slackpkg servers listed in the default file are live with 10.2 yet but there are some that are (most prominently the one listed above).

10.2 Ahoy!

Great to hear, I thought it would still be a week or so off. Better check the changelog, download what is needed, and seed to help everyone :)
Congrats to Pat on another solid and timely release.

Me too. BTW, I am wearing the blue tee-shirt right now :D
Did Slackware Store charge your credit card for the new release or not? My credit card summary doesn't show anything yet. :(

What? No RC (Release Candidate)? Gee..

time for me to upgrade ;)

Does anyone subscribe to the "slackware-announce" mailing list? I do and there hasn't been a mail about 10.2 yet (at least, I haven't received one :/).

Still, it's good to hear the news :D.

@ trey85stang,
GNOME was a lost cause for Slackware prior to the release of 10.1 and was dumped either the first or second update of -current after 10.1 was released.

@ carboncopy,
I've always considered -current to be the alpha, beta and RC of the pending release;) . Doesn't everybody?

Grabbing the 10.2 tree right now and will have a DVD by morning hopefully.

Great news. I can finally upgrade my servers. I needn't to recompile sendmail with sasl support further. And native posix threads support in glibc is a boon.
Unfortunately Pat didn't included my fixes to some small glitches in init scripts of sysvinit and tcpip packages.

is it safe to upgrade kernel using slapt-get
from slack 10.1 to 10.2

and which packages should not be excluded during upgrade to slack 10.2
default exclude list:
EXCLUDE=^kernel-.*,^alsa-.*,^glibc.*,.*-[0-9]dl$,^devs$,^udev$,aaa_elflibs,x86_64

Isn't there an official DVD?

Yeeeehaaa upgrade :D

I sleep in mine! Downloading now...

The loss of gnome isn't much of an issue for me. I must say though, I'm pretty happy to see KDE 3.4.2 included. I can't get enough of that eye candy. My wife is actually kinda excited about this one too. She has recently seen the light and now refuses to use Windows unless it's absolutely necessary.:D

For me, I'd have preferred GNOME to be included, because I was using some of the apps (like gnome-cd and sometimes gedit) but I can get by using other things.

Edit: been downloading the first two ISOs via BT since this morning :D.

That's good news for me. I just installed 10.1 (my first Slack), so I don't feel like burning anymore ISOs. However, now that I know more about what I need, I might just do a clean reinstall and not install a bunch of stuff I don't need (ALSA, etc.)

Go Slack!

Gnome was cut, eh?

How does this affect upgrading a Slackware 10.1 install with gnome to Slackware 10.2?
My little bro needs gnome unfortunately, and an automatic upgrade would be much preferable to manually applying all the security updates since 10.1.

what else is included in the second cd?
I downloaded the first cd and I already have all the KDE 3.4.2 packages, should I downlaod 2. iso??

No. There are a couple of repositories which offer DVD's but they're unofficial. The two I know about build on Sunday and I don't like to wait so I build my own.

On GNOME, I see Patrick's reasoning behind dropping it. He wasn't ready to move Slackware to kernel 2.6, which later versions of GNOME require due to HAL and DBus, and it requires a great deal of time and effort to get right. With three projects-Dropline, GWare and GSB-Freerock- dedicated to providing GNOME to Slackware users, Patrick can put that time and effort in to other areas of Slackware.
I've been using Dropline since Slackware 9.1 so Patrick's decision to drop GNOME has had no effect on me or my system.

CD 2 contains linux-2.6.13, kde, kdei, and t(tex). If you already have KDE 3.4.2(and qt) and have no use for the other packages, I don't see a need to grab cd2.

Nice, I'm glad I waited a few days. Slackware 10.1 would have been my first Slackware install at least now I will have the latest and greatest. Can't wait til I get off work so I can DL it and install try out Slackware for the first time ever. :D

Just did a full update (minus kernel and alsa) via Swaret to 10.2. Nice, bit nippier which is good.

But had to do:

mknod /dev/dsp0 c 14 3
mknod /dev/mixer0 c 14 3
chmod 777 /dev/dsp*
chmod 777 /dev/mixer*
chown root:audio /dev/dsp0
chown root:audio /dev/mixer0
ln -s /dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp
ln -s /dev/mixer0 /dev/mixer

to get sound on a few things running sweet (audacity for one).

EDIT:
Scrap that, I just rebooted and lost /dev/dsp again.... :cry:

Its a Udev and kernel 2.6 issue. I have chmod'd /etc/rc.d/rc.udev 644 until I can come up with a more robust solution....

But apart from that yay! 10.2!!

Pat V is so full of it.........he said there was NOT enough room on CD2 to make it a bootable live rescue disk............there is 200 megs of wasted space on disk 2 just sitting there doing .........nothing! this was the space that Gnome was using......now it is a waste land.......LOL

My disk 2 is 645MB.

i concur - according to my btdownloadcurses.py it's a 645MB ISO image...

unless of course my btdownloadcurses.py is full of it... LOL...

yes but ISOs don't reflect the size of the CD once it is burned. Can someone put a really simple guide to upgrading for this newbie? (i.e. me?)

the ISO image is an image of the data we wish to burn on the cd, so if the data you wanna make an ISO image of weighs 50MB then when you make the ISO it should also be around 50 or 51 MB, depending on the options you give the mkisofs command and the required padding, etc...

so when you burn that 51MB ISO to CD, and you mount the cd, you'll notice it has 50MB (insignificantly less than the size of the ISO)...

try with the slackware 10.1 cd1 - as you can see on any mirror, the slackware 10.1 cd1 ISO weighs 634MB...

so look what happens when i mount my slackware 10.1 cd 1:besides, freakyg had the correct size for the cd 1 ISO:
it's just that freakyg's reported size for cd 2 doesn't match the official ISO:

Yes but for example some ISOs are over 700MB but still fit on a CD. Back on topic though, can someone post a painless upgrade guide? I have 10.1 installed and want to get updated because trying to update KDE to 3.4.2 on 10.1 a week ago messed it up and I really have almost no experience with Linux.

AFAIK none of the reasons why that happens is because "ISOs don't reflect the size of the CD once it is burned"... ISOs - being the images that they are - are a faithful representation of the data that will go on the disc... i might be mistaken, but AFAIK if you have a 600MB ISO image and you burn it, you can expect the resulting data on the disc to be "600MB minus the size of the iso metadata"... so if you buy a "700MB" cd-r and you manage to properly burn a 710MB ISO image to it without any data loss/corruption then i would assume the "700MB" cd-r actually had a little more space on it... i would appreciate any light shed on this by someone who's actually sure about the issue...

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can someone post a painless upgrade guide? I have 10.1 installed and want to get updated because trying to update KDE to 3.4.2 on 10.1 a week ago messed it up and I really have almost no experience with Linux.

have you looked at the UPGRADE.TXT file??

http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-10.2/UPGRADE.TXT

oh heh thanks. Yes, I think that is due to metadata that some ISOs are above 700MB, like I have seen ISOs that are 720MB but I am pretty sure they get smaller once you burn it somehow.

Oh wait I'm very confused can I do all that in KDE or do I have to quite KDE? I would rather be able to do it from Konsole than going into pure console, because it feels more powerful and easy to wreck things. Will this overwrite my existing LILO setup? I had to modify it to get Windows to boot so I don't want to lose that and have to set it up again.

you will need to do the first part in runlevel 1 (single-user mode):for the rest you'll need to be in multi-user mode (runlevel 3):i suggest you do it by the book and forget about doing any of this from within kde... :)

oh ok. but how do I know which parts to download? should I download the entire CD1 or just packages from the package browser? How would that work anyway?

Excellent!!
I've been waiting for this moment for some time! Right on:-)

your best bet right now is to download both ISOs via BitTorrent:

http://www.slackware.com/torrents/

Are you sure I need both? I think CD2 is only necessary for extra things. Oh wait- is KDE on CD2? Oops, never mind then. Argh, I just installed 10.1 a few weeks ago too. Downloading...

Oh hey wait people said things like using swaret and slapt to upgrade, that sounds much easier and won't waste 2 CDs. Can someone post a tutorial on how to do that, or is that little modification all that is needed? I'll check it out on the weekend, 2 AP classes and 2 honors are really sucking the life out of me.

well, yeah, if you use stuff like swaret or whatever to do it then you don't need to download the ISOs, as the tool will download the necessary packages... and yeah, kde is on the second cd... :)

i'm sorry i can't give you any info or tips about upgrading and stuff, i've honestly never tried it, i always just backup my documents, configs, and build scripts, and then re-install the new slackware version with the install cd(s)...

if you have slapt-get then check my first post in this thread. its incredibly easy.. actually requires you to change 1 character in a file.

Good Job Pat V. Thank you :D

MagicMan

Has anyone tried using the torrent? I have successfully made disk 1 and 2 but haven't installed it yet, but during the download there were 3 errors on each iso. The md5 check failed which I haven't seen on a bittorrent download before.

Yes I got mine via bittorrent.

md5 and gpg checkout GOOD.

Ummm...

There is normal to have errors downloading with torrent. It suppose to redownload the 'corrupted' part.

Are you seeding the disc? If you are seeding the disc. Then it should be fine. I can't tell what is wrong with your case other then incomplete download?

Note: Installing it right now. Seeding it as well.

It all completed succesfully, and I burned the disks, so I assume it's ok but as I said an error message appeared during the download saying something like 'piece 901 failed md5 check'. It's probably fine. I used ctorrent to do the download which I find the best. The xbittorrent client on slackware never seems to go properly. I get around 50kb/s with ctorrent with 512kb/s connection. Slightly slow, but ok.

I use the official bittorrent client available slackware/extra

I find it great cause it uses minimal CPU time.


The usual command I use is

btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate XX --save_in /foo/bar download.torrent

I limit the upload rate so that it doesn't bring down my network with extremely high upload.

btdownloadcurses.py --help will show a complete range of options.

Anyhow, piece XXX failed md5 check is alright. It is normal to have some corrupted pieces sometimes with bittorrent. But bittorrent client will redownload that piece again automagically.