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Old 04-01-2005, 06:31 PM   #1
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Slackware 10.1 Kernel 2.6.10 Sound Problems


I have searched the forum and found many many threads about the sound problem but my problem I think is different.

I have compiled my new kernel 2.6.10 with Alsa in it and compiled also OSS and its compatibility modules for Alsa. (Or vice-versa - Alsa compatibility modules for OSS)

Everything seems to work well up to this point. I Open JuK or Xmms or AmaroK whatever, It starts playing, I can see my sound card easily from KMix and make changes on its settings. KMix says that my sound card is Intel82801DB-ICH4 and it also shows me a dummy sound card.

I play mp3 wav etc. with players and my aRTs server checker shows signals and peeks just fly going up and down but no sound is given from my speakers.

Everything related to hardware works fine for this, no errors nothing etc. When I switch to XP, I hear sound as well so there must be a problem in an other place.

I dont have an error like " sth could not be found ".

And when I Say something from my microphone, I can hear it on the speakers but no mp3 sound at all.

It shows like the output is also alright. So where can be the problem ?

Thanks in advance.

(Used : alsamixer to unMute my sound card I Dont have that MM on its peeks and used alsactl store to save it )

Last edited by ShoCkwave; 04-01-2005 at 06:36 PM.
 
Old 04-01-2005, 06:48 PM   #2
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Re: Slackware 10.1 Kernel 2.6.10 Sound Problems

Quote:
Originally posted by ShoCkwave
I have searched the forum and found many many threads about the sound problem but my problem I think is different.

I have compiled my new kernel 2.6.10 with Alsa in it and compiled also OSS and its compatibility modules for Alsa. (Or vice-versa - Alsa compatibility modules for OSS)

Everything seems to work well up to this point. I Open JuK or Xmms or AmaroK whatever, It starts playing, I can see my sound card easily from KMix and make changes on its settings. KMix says that my sound card is Intel82801DB-ICH4 and it also shows me a dummy sound card.

I play mp3 wav etc. with players and my aRTs server checker shows signals and peeks just fly going up and down but no sound is given from my speakers.

Everything related to hardware works fine for this, no errors nothing etc. When I switch to XP, I hear sound as well so there must be a problem in an other place.

I dont have an error like " sth could not be found ".

And when I Say something from my microphone, I can hear it on the speakers but no mp3 sound at all.

It shows like the output is also alright. So where can be the problem ?

Thanks in advance.

(Used : alsamixer to unMute my sound card I Dont have that MM on its peeks and used alsactl store to save it )
Takes a jump and thinks, alsa version latest 1.0.9rc2, so if you have the older 1.0.8 installed suggests the 1.0.9rc2 as this will possibly fix your issues. If you have this already, then it maybe the card it's self. I personaly have SBLive24 but can not get the mic to work, quirk of the card most likely.

If it works on XP but not Linux, then something in the 2.6.1X Lunix has an issue. I have found it to corrupt the sound on mine even with the newer alsa. I get garbled sounds. Like before I installed the alsa 1.0.9rc2 witht he Linux 2.4.29. I am still working out the bugs of 2.6.11.6 Liux to make it work correctly with no errors, and I have narrowed it to 3 or 4 so far, sound being one of the major ones. NIC is the other. I need to go and get a 3 Com and not have issues anymore.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 04:45 AM   #3
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Well well....

I think this has no solution because I have never seen a reply like " I have overcome to this problem "

There are only ideas like install this maybe, etc.

It there any answer from Patrick Volk. about this new slackware release and its sound problem ? Everything was fine before I update to Slackware 10.1 in Slack 10.0 with same kernel and same config file 2.6.10.

I had no changes to kernel, same version same config file but where can be the problem? Only aLsa version?

What about OSS ? I installed it too even it is deprected and It doesnt work either but nothing crushes at all.

Thanks.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 05:12 AM   #4
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Wooohoooo!!!
I have overcome to this problem !

Here's the solution way I used to overcome. First I recompiled my kernel with the options given below.
I am using 2.6.10
Code:
#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y

#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=y
# CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK=y
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

#
# Generic devices
#
CONFIG_SND_OPL3_LIB=y
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set

#
# PCI devices
#
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=y
# CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AZT3328 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set
CONFIG_SND_CS46XX=y
# CONFIG_SND_CS46XX_NEW_DSP is not set
CONFIG_SND_CS4281=y
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set
# CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=y
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set

#
# USB devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_USB_USX2Y is not set

#
# Open Sound System
#
CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME=y
# CONFIG_SOUND_BT878 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_CS4281 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ICH is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_VIA82CXXX is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ALI5455 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_FORTE is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_RME96XX is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_AD1980 is not set
After kompiling my kernel with those options I restarted my system in my Old Kernel 2.4.29 ( I have abackup of vmlinuz.old to have backwards compatability always) started X to play something and Xmms didnt play in OSS or in Alsa mode. Did something in aLSa but no sound.

Then restarted system in my new kernel 2.6.10 and entered X, At the beginning I heard the X starting sound.

That's awesome !
 
Old 04-02-2005, 01:11 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by ShoCkwave
Wooohoooo!!!
I have overcome to this problem !

Here's the solution way I used to overcome. First I recompiled my kernel with the options given below.
I am using 2.6.10
Code:
#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y

#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=y
# CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK=y
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

#
# Generic devices
#
CONFIG_SND_OPL3_LIB=y
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set

#
# PCI devices
#
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=y
# CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AZT3328 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set
CONFIG_SND_CS46XX=y
# CONFIG_SND_CS46XX_NEW_DSP is not set
CONFIG_SND_CS4281=y
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set
# CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=y
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set

#
# USB devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_USB_USX2Y is not set

#
# Open Sound System
#
CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME=y
# CONFIG_SOUND_BT878 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_CS4281 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ICH is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_VIA82CXXX is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ALI5455 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_FORTE is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_RME96XX is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_AD1980 is not set
After kompiling my kernel with those options I restarted my system in my Old Kernel 2.4.29 ( I have abackup of vmlinuz.old to have backwards compatability always) started X to play something and Xmms didnt play in OSS or in Alsa mode. Did something in aLSa but no sound.

Then restarted system in my new kernel 2.6.10 and entered X, At the beginning I heard the X starting sound.

That's awesome !
Congrats, me...I am going to wait till I can afford the 3Com NIC before I go too much farther, seems Linux 2.6.11.6 is not liked by my NetworkEverywhere by Linksys card. For now, will stay here at 2.4.29 and wait. I found a nice one for 40.00 from Insight dot com and am going to save my pennies to get it. Then I think I will be able to get the new 2.6.11.6 to work flawlessly. Being unemployed, it is going to be a time before I get it, but I will. Be well and at least now this system is working like it was after the initial good run and all. So for now, this is good for me. Be well.
 
Old 04-06-2005, 09:18 AM   #6
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How did you manage to install and use Alsa?

I installed Driver, Lib, and Utils, I can run alsaconfig, and it all goes properly, but I can not get any sound, not as a root, or some other user.

I get messages like:



Loading driver...
Starting sound driver: snd-emu10k1 WARNING: Error inserting snd_util_mem (/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1 (/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko): Invalid module format
done
Setting default volumes...



Where I did gone wrong? Did I done something wrong in installation of Alsa?

BTW, I'm using Creative Live! sound card.

Thanx in advance!

Last edited by proNick; 04-06-2005 at 09:25 AM.
 
Old 04-06-2005, 12:12 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by proNick
How did you manage to install and use Alsa?

I installed Driver, Lib, and Utils, I can run alsaconfig, and it all goes properly, but I can not get any sound, not as a root, or some other user.

I get messages like:



Loading driver...
Starting sound driver: snd-emu10k1 WARNING: Error inserting snd_util_mem (/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1 (/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko): Invalid module format
done
Setting default volumes...



Where I did gone wrong? Did I done something wrong in installation of Alsa?

BTW, I'm using Creative Live! sound card.

Thanx in advance!
When you setup Alsa did your run "sh configure"? this could be a determining factor.
 
Old 04-06-2005, 02:39 PM   #8
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Hey,

All working now, I just run command ./snddevice from alsa-driver dir. With that I have created needed devices in /dev directory.


Sound problems are solved now.
 
Old 04-06-2005, 02:53 PM   #9
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Hey,

All working now, I just run command ./snddevice from alsa-driver dir. With that I have created needed devices in /dev directory.


Sound problems are solved now.

Good for you!! someday when my system actually does get better parts, I wil go to a better kernel.
 
  


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