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06-26-2009, 09:23 AM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Oosterbeek, The Netherlands
Distribution: Desk and Lap: Slackware13.1 64
Posts: 203
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Slackbook - New release mid 2009
Hopefully it will be ready, when it's ready,.
But still: I'm willing to buy some linux/slackware stuff on paper, since the PDF-printout isn't that comfy,.. and kinda older ( not to say outdated ) and I'd like to contribute/donate to the development of slackware.
Currently at 12.2 with 13 on it's way (in 32 and 64 bit ), I wonder..
PS:
I Know, I could buy some T-'s, but I'm not into T-'s. And, 'Aufkleber/Decals/Stickers' aren't at avail or to the benefit of Slack'
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06-26-2009, 05:56 PM
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Guru
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: NJ, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Debian
Posts: 5,817
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There is considerable debate as to the usefulness and long-term manageability of a project like the Slackbook. Many people, myself included, think the community would be much better served adopting a modular system like a Wiki as the official source of documentation, rather than a monolithic document that goes 5+ years without an update.
That aside...was there a question being posed here, or were you just commenting on the fact that there is apparently efforts being made to revise the document?
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06-26-2009, 06:25 PM
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Registered: Dec 2006
Distribution: Slackware
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MS3FGX
There is considerable debate as to the usefulness and long-term manageability of a project like the Slackbook. Many people, myself included, think the community would be much better served adopting a modular system like a Wiki as the official source of documentation, rather than a monolithic document that goes 5+ years without an update.
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I think you mean this forum 
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06-26-2009, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 3,659
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Yes, it was announced on alt.os.linux.slackware about a year ago.
I would also be happy to see a new edition. The current one is already an excellent primer for using Slackware from the command line.
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06-27-2009, 03:16 AM
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Guru
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: $RANDOM
Distribution: slackware64
Posts: 12,610
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I say you make an official wiki and see which one comes out better.
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06-27-2009, 03:38 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Philadelphia PA USA
Distribution: Lubuntu, Slackware
Posts: 2,122
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I first read the slack book before I installed slackware 12.0. It taught me a lot; and I thought it was very informative and relevant to slackware at the time. Even though the slack book has apparently not been updated in some time, I can tell you that it is still very useful. I still refer to it from time to time.
I would very much like to see a new version of the slack book.
Of course, an official wiki would be very nice also.
These are not mutually exclusive, however. Having both would be ideal imo.
Last edited by tommcd; 06-27-2009 at 03:47 AM.
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06-27-2009, 04:30 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2008
Posts: 2,843
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Though wikis are a great tool, what worries me about them is that being 'online' resources, if the site ever goes away (for whatever reason) all that knowledge is lost). Using a wiki to help facilitate the writing of the slackbook probably makes sense, but there's no replacement for a book/pdf to consolidate all that knowledge which you can keep to hand.
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06-27-2009, 09:18 AM
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Registered: Apr 2009
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 442
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Nothing beats printing the pdf... If you lift it 50 times a day you can even make some muscles =]
Keep the book, please.
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08-09-2009, 12:59 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 3,659
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SlackBasics is a very worthy competitor to the Slack Book. It's very well-written, it assumes no knowledge whatsoever, it covers a lot of material, and it's almost as short. It's also up to date (it mentions slackpkg, for example).
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08-09-2009, 01:33 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Jogja, Indonesia
Distribution: Slackware-Current
Posts: 1,858
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and it's also been translated to some languages
http://code.google.com/p/slackbasics-i18n/
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08-09-2009, 11:53 PM
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Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Phoenix
Distribution: Arch
Posts: 799
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@dugan on slackbasics
While it is more update than slackbook, it seems to be lacking in strait to the point slackware specific information. In fact it seems like just a good source of core linux foundations, the command line and system admin information. It's order is also completely useless for a first time slackware user (note first time slackware user not first time linux user).
More in particular try searching slackbasics for "startup" or "configuration". The only way to find out where start up files are located is if you happen to know that 'init' starts this stuff and that's not until chapter 19. In the slack book, this is all located in chapter 4. You can also find this out in slack book by searching for all 3 key words "startup" "configuration" and "initialization"
I don't doubt that slackbasics has a ton of useful information, but presentation of information is just as important. I just hope the new version of the slackbook will have a lot more information. There were a few times that I found all the right sections pertaining to my questions but never got an answer.
Thanks for the link though, it does look like a good source of information.
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08-10-2009, 08:25 AM
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Moderator
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Midwest USA, Central Illinois
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 10,343
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Hi,
I think SlackwareŽ Basics and SlackwareŽ Linux Essentials service a genre. Each contributes to the use of the OS. Sure one's order seems to service the needs of SlackwareŽ but the other overall provides useful information to everyone.
It would be beneficial to everyone if the documentation was up to date. The problem is that everything is volunteer based and the distribution is a moving target. A wiki would be nice but that too would require attention from participants. I know that individual load on a wiki is large and the maintenance of the wiki can be very over powering. Take my word for that.
I think a wiki would be nice for immediate access if it was maintained to a '-current' and 'stable' mode of operation/information. It could have sub-categories or a layout that aligned to the functionality of the OS. Beginner, Intermediate and Guru levels of information would be best but to address would be very difficult to a world community. If you place definition links within the wiki then that will be distracting to users. Sure to annotate the words/reference(s) would be another means but that too can cause a lot of distractions.
I have given this a lot of thought about a 'SlackwareŽ-wiki' and not along the lines of the current ' SlackWiki'. Which is a good resource.  But a wiki that provides information in a manner to allow everyone utility for the OS.
The nice thing about having hard copy is that you have the information on hand. You would not have the problem as noted;
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excerpt from 'News' for SlackWiki;
There has been a reset of the wiki. The database was corrupted. A few pages, all Talk/Discussion pages and all user accounts were lost. --Erik 23:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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Sure a WikiMaster or WebMaster could grandfather copies so as to alleviate this type of problem. But some lose would still happen.
I am looking forward to the revised release of the book. 
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08-10-2009, 08:34 AM
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Guru
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: underground
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 7,594
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FWIW, I too would like to see the paper version of the Slackbook continue and be revised.
It is/was my hope that when Slackware-13 is released, the Slackbook would have been updated and available for purchase at that time too, facilitating purchase of a 'SlackPackage' box-set or whatever it's called, which includes the CD/DVD of your choice, plus the new book.
If this doesn't happen, I'll still be buying the DVD box release of Slackware-13, but will wait and buy the book separately if/when it's released in a revised format. (And if that is condemned to not happening, I'll eventually purchase the older Slackbook anyway; I like reading paper items.)
Sasha
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08-10-2009, 11:54 AM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2007
Distribution: Slackware64 13.37
Posts: 209
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Alan Hicks is interviewed on "Hacker Public Radio" #390.
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Klaatu and Alan Hicks (from the Slackbook project) chat about
Slackware, 64bit support, slack hacking methodology, what's in the works
for Slackbook 3.0, Slackware' intended audience, the SouthEast Linux
Fest, and more.
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The next Slackbook should be out "soon".
If anyone's interested in listening to the interview:
http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=0390
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08-10-2009, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 3,659
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Thanks, wadsworth. That was a very interesting listen. Especially the part where he said he was waiting for the release of Slackware 13 before writing some sections.
And BTW, I'd been wondering what happened to MadPenguin's Slackers Bible. Turns out it'd been reborn as a wiki book:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Slackersbible
It's extremely incomplete. Being a wiki, of course, it is what we choose to make it. So the people who want a wiki Slackware book have (the beginning of) one.
Last edited by dugan; 08-10-2009 at 03:00 PM.
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