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Just wondering if anyone in the know, would know if KDE 4.3 will be part of Slackware 13. Considering reports of greater performance and stability, this would be a welcome addition.
Slackware 13.0 will ship with KDE 4.2.4. Changes to the Slackware core are required for a fully functional KDE 4.3 which we are not willing to add this late in the development cycle.
KDE 4.3 will be the target for Slackware 13.1 I guess.
Oh, really?! I just can't believe... I always thought the hole point of waiting so long with the release of 13.0 was to include KDE 4.3... KDE > 3.5.10 and < 4.3 was not meant to be used by conservative desktop users as always mentioned on kde.org/downloads.
Oh, really?! I just can't believe... I always thought the hole point of waiting so long with the release of 13.0 was to include KDE 4.3... KDE > 3.5.10 and < 4.3 was not meant to be used by conservative desktop users as always mentioned on kde.org/downloads.
Well if you want to try out KDE 4.3 then run -current. KDE 4.3 will make it into the -current mirrors at some point.
I am very happy that Pat and the Slackware team only include software in the stable branch that is thoroughly tested.
Oh, really?! I just can't believe... I always thought the whole point of waiting so long with the release of 13.0 was to include KDE 4.3...
I'm quite sure that Pat V., Alien Bob, Robby Workman and others of the Slackware team who post here have never stated that the whole point of waiting to release 13 was for KDE 4.3. In fact, the posts I've read have all seemed to clearly indicate that 4.2.x would be included.
I've not used any version of KDE 4, so I'm not sure what the differences are between 4.2.x and 4.3.x, but I trust that Slackware 13 will work well and be stable.
I'm quite sure that Pat V., Alien Bob, Robby Workman and others of the Slackware team who post here have never stated that the whole point of waiting to release 13 was for KDE 4.3. In fact, the posts I've read have all seemed to clearly indicate that 4.2.x would be included.
I've not used any version of KDE 4, so I'm not sure what the differences are between 4.2.x and 4.3.x, but I trust that Slackware 13 will work well and be stable.
Regards,
Yup! That's the point. Although I'm eager to test KDE4.3 but I trust the dev team more and not want to have a unstable system.
(Yes, I think -current is stable for me, let alone the stable releases )
I'm impressed that this thread garnered so many replies so this is obviously a hot topic. Per the devs, I'm happier to have a solid system for 13.0 than something that is less tested. Something like the desktop can make or break a release and that's not something you want to mess around with.
I'm quite happy to wait for 13.0+ -current or whenever kde 4.3 appears in Slack. Or I may even do my own compile ...
Changes to the Slackware core are required for a fully functional KDE 4.3 which we are not willing to add this late in the development cycle.
Can you write a resume, on simple terms if desired, of what changes will be needed? I was wondering if I can use the BW64 slackbuilds and adapt it to Slackware, just for testing before 13 goes final. I saw some experimental kdebase libs on BW side, and the comments on changing the core gave me a sense of failure and a possible break on my current.
There's nothing wrong with KDE4.2.4 in terms of performance. There are some features that I would miss. Using widgets with the folderview mode is possible in KDE4.2, but it involves switching back and forth between folderview and desktop. With 4.3, you can just add widgets to the desktop from the folderview mode. (Is it just me, or is the terminolgy becomign increasingly confusing?) And 4.3 finally restores the directory filter bar to Konqueror, thank God.
It's a good choice. I've tried every KDE4 release, and I consider 4.2.4 to be just about the cutoff point where I would rather stick with KDE 3.5. My experience suggests that there ARE perfomance issues with KDE4.2.1 and 4.2.2. Right now I'm using Vector Linux, but I may give Slackware 13 a try when it gets here.
Well, as AlienBOB said .. "changes to the core of slackware are required". So I would say that it is a bigger change than just a simple version update. Exactly what is changing, I am not sure as I haven't had a look under the KDE4 hood. But I believe it has to do something with KDE 4.3 requiring policykit...
Personally I would have liked to see Slackware 13.0 released with KDE 3.5.10 if KDE 4.3 was too much of a hurdle to incorporate. At least 3.5.10 can be said to be rock solid stable. It that true for 4.2.4?
Anyone still nervous about KDE 4.2 can always stick with Slack 12.2 a little longer. Infact I've been wondering about doing this myself as I'm quite happy with the 2.6.27.y kernel series and don't use KDE anyway (though I'm still curious to see how it's shaping up).
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