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Old 12-21-2010, 04:33 PM   #16
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Can't even see drive to install!!!
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the problem is this you did not give me your install steps. you mean slackware does not see your drive to install?
I didn't give any install steps because unfortunately I can't even install Slackware! If I run setup it says I should exit and partition the disks using cfdisk or fdisk. Well cfdisk errors out because it can't find any drives!
you must run cfdisk set up your hard drive and swap file. If you do not do that slackware will not proceed to install. run the cfdisk tool make your partitions then slackware will start the set up.
Oh my all this because you have unformulated hard drives.

TinyCore runs in ram that is why you could see your old drives most likely windows partitions.
does not mater what distro if you do not format your drives they will never be seen to install on.
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so when you run cfdisk what is the error

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Old 12-21-2010, 08:49 PM   #17
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Where's pci_ide?!

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you need initrd with kernel-generic anyway, so why not?
Well, just for grins I downloaded the latest stable kernel source and so far I haven't found a single file called pci_ide so I hope I'll find it once 13.1 finishes installing (did like you suggested, but I'm running out blank CDs and they cost a fortune here in Canada - I wish my old computer was new enough to have a DVD drive).

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Good luck! :-)
Thanks. In case that doesn't work though I've opened a great bottle of red wine to drown my troubles in - our celebrate with!
 
Old 12-21-2010, 08:58 PM   #18
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Tiny Core: the good thing in small packages

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TinyCore runs in ram that is why you could see your old drives most likely windows partitions.
does not mater what distro if you do not format your drives they will never be seen to install on.
Tiny Core runs mostly in RAM, but it has to load from somewhere! And if you install it on a hard drive you can configure persistent storage (for /opt and /home typically) rather than backup-at-shutdown (like you would if running off a pendrive); and the extensions are looped in so they're being read off the physical medium they're stored on.

The only reason I'm not using TC on that old laptop is I just figured it would be easier to have one distro to serve them all and in the network bind them (you can blame that last abuse of classic literature on the cocktail of Advil and red wine I've consumed this evening

But if alekow's suggestion doesn't work I think I'm going to with TC and that's it!

Thanks,

Last edited by schultzter; 12-21-2010 at 09:13 PM. Reason: Somehow screwed up "alekow"?!
 
Old 12-22-2010, 12:26 AM   #19
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I had to use the huge.s kernal since hugesmp.s complains about a missing function and then stops booting.
I forgot about that - you should probably turn off smp in your kernel.

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Device Drivers  ---> <*> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  ---> <*>   generic/default IDE chipset support
Here's the driver

And you'll also nedd those:
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Device Drivers  ---> <*> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  ---> <*>   generic ATA/ATAPI disk support
Device Drivers  ---> <*> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  --->[*]     ATA disk support
Device Drivers  ---> <*> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  ---> <*>   Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support
Also take a look at /extra/linux-2.6.33.4-nosmp-sdk/ directory in slackware-13.1 source tree.

Last edited by alekow; 12-22-2010 at 01:00 AM.
 
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:33 PM   #20
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This is getting complicated

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I forgot about that - you should probably turn off smp in your kernel.

...

Also take a look at /extra/linux-2.6.33.4-nosmp-sdk/ directory in slackware-13.1 source tree.
So are those options I'll find when configuring a kernel build? In menuconfig or elsewhere?

I found the string PCI_IDE in the file /drivers/ide/ide-pci-generic.c but I'm trying to find a good tutorial on how to compile a module, or even compile myself a custom kernel with everything built-in that my machine needs (and nothing it doesn't).

Is there some dependancy checking going on? So if I say make ide-pci-generic will it also make the modules it depends on? I looked at a kernel config file and I could not find anything that I thought would let me build that driver into a custom kernel.

I guess I better stop at the liquor store, I'm going to need a lot more red wine to complete this little project!

Thanks for all your help so far, I wouldn't still be doing this without it.
 
Old 12-22-2010, 03:32 PM   #21
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Sorry, i feel my posts are a bit chaotic.

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I forgot that there's a generic-non-smp kernel package (kernel-generic-2.6.33.4-i486-1.txz) which you'll need - install it.

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Also take a look at /extra/linux-2.6.33.4-nosmp-sdk/ directory in slackware-13.1 source tree.
You can find there 3 things: a package with non-smp kernel-headers - you'll need it too, a patch file and a README file.

3)
After patching your kernel-source run make menuconfig [EDIT]and load generic-non-smp kernel config found in /boot[/EDIT] and find those:

Code:
Device Drivers  ---> <M> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  ---> <M>   generic/default IDE chipset support
Device Drivers  ---> <M> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  ---> <*>   generic ATA/ATAPI disk support
Device Drivers  ---> <M> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  --->[M]     ATA disk support
Device Drivers  ---> <M> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED)  ---> <M>   Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support
You can see that i changed most of asterisks to 'M' letters - It should be like this - compile them as modules

4) Run 'make' and 'make modules_install' (This should work - if so, you won't have to recompile whole kernel)

5) Read the /boot/README.initrd
6) Make an initrd with your filesystem support and your IDE module (ide_pci_generic?) [EDIT2] but I don't think this one is really needed - just use your filesystem module [/EDIT2] and modify lilo.conf (not forgetting to run 'lilo' command after that)

And i guess it's enough... if i didn't miss anything ;-)

Merry Christmas! :-)

EDIT:
Hope you've seen the edited part:-)

Last edited by alekow; 12-23-2010 at 04:22 AM.
 
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