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BW-userx 03-19-2017 03:38 PM

SBO issues with Firefox - youtube no longer working (again) now.
 
Ok I just blasted Slack out - reinstalled it, checked my youtube in firefox - redid what I did and it goes blank - this time it did not go blank- it kept working so I changed into my dir where I keep all of my SBo.x.x.tgz installs
Code:

installpkg *
installed everything back again. Then went and checked youtube again and bye bye video it is now no longer working again.

so if I run
Code:

removepkg *
will it remove every SBo I installed and not screw up slack so I can play that one at a time install and check youtube until I find what is causing it to no longer work?

and or
do you think ffmpeg maybe having something to do with it. what the hell would cause it to screw up from an outside app? grumble grumble grumble -- :banghead:

Skaendo 03-19-2017 04:56 PM

Are you using AlienBob's VLC? And what plugin are you using; flashplayer or npapi?

BW-userx 03-19-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skaendo (Post 5685648)
Are you using AlienBob's VLC, and what plugin are you using; flashplayer or npapi?

bob's it converts to mp3 because it is outside USA compiled vlc how ever he got that one setup.

how do I find out that other one - let me look in setting on Firefox 50.0.1 - I have no idea actually
Quote:

Support will end for all NPAPI plugins except for Flash in March 2017, when Firefox version 52 is released.

Skaendo 03-19-2017 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 5685649)
bob's it converts to mp3 because it is outside USA compiled vlc how ever he got that one setup.

If you haven't installed either flashplayer or npapi (from SBo or Alien's) you're not using either.

I end up recompiling Eric's VLC with MOZPLUGIN="NO" because it interferes with flashplayer-plugin for me for some reason.

RadicalDreamer 03-19-2017 05:08 PM

Is the OpenH264 plugin activated in Firefox?!

Didier Spaier 03-19-2017 05:09 PM

Now listening Hilary Hahn with no plugin activated and no issue. This is on Firefox 45.8.0 (official binary repackaged).

Listen the cadenza from 7:22...

BW-userx 03-19-2017 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skaendo (Post 5685651)
If you haven't installed either flashplayer or npapi (from SBo or Alien's) you're not using either.

I end up recompiling Eric's VLC with MOZPLUGIN="NO" because it interferes with flashplayer-plugin for me for some reason.

this is actually another fresh install -- current - current I keep a mirror of current64 now and am using that to created iso to boot install off of.

BW-userx 03-19-2017 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5685653)
Is the OpenH264 plugin activated in Firefox?!

I do not really mess with firefox per se' other than I have placed flash in the ~/.mozzia/firefox/plugins before but not lately. it has nothing right now at all it is a fresh Firefox directory in my home.

yeah it is in there in plugins that is the only one (thing) that is in plugins set to : always activate

BW-userx 03-19-2017 06:13 PM

ok from this fresh install I installed using sbotools is -
pcmanfm
terniology

a few other things from my precompiled but nothing to do with video xpenguins some dockapps prboom

youtube is no longer working video wise.

I added the new flash plugin off of adobe sight placed it in ~/.mozzia/plugins
videos do not work

Skaendo 03-19-2017 06:56 PM

Why don't you just use Eric's flashplayer-plugin?

http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/peo...player-plugin/

then:
Code:

# echo 'export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins' >> /etc/profile
you might need to logout and back in for it to get picked up. I actually reboot after that.

RadicalDreamer 03-19-2017 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 5685660)
I do not really mess with firefox per se' other than I have placed flash in the ~/.mozzia/firefox/plugins before but not lately. it has nothing right now at all it is a fresh Firefox directory in my home.

yeah it is in there in plugins that is the only one (thing) that is in plugins set to : always activate

Its what I use. I don't use flash.

FFMPEG working? VP9 and Opus codecs installed and working?

cwizardone 03-19-2017 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5685653)
Is the OpenH264 plugin activated in Firefox?!

IIRC, the only plug-in being recognized by Firefox, as of version 52, is Flash.
With all the problems some people seem to have I've started to wonder if it has something to do with possible confusion with the slackpkg system? :scratch:
Perhaps, just downloading what is needed and using,
upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new
might be a better course of action for some?
Just a thought.
:twocents:

RadicalDreamer 03-19-2017 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 5685686)
IIRC, the only plug-in being recognized by Firefox, as of version 52, is Flash.
With all the problems some people seem to have I've started to wonder if has something to do with possible confusion with the slackpkg system? :scratch:
Perhaps, just downloading what is needed and using,
upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new
might be a better course of action for some?
Just a thought.
:twocents:

x264 is listed for me in version 52. Most videos I don't think use that on youtube. They use VP9 and Opus from what I can tell.

audriusk 03-20-2017 06:40 AM

Firefox doesn't need Flash to play YouTube videos. Most of YouTube videos should play in Firefox out of the box (using WebM format), they simply won't be played in the best video quality possible. Higher quality videos are often encoded using H.264, recent Firefox versions (like the one in -current) require ffmpeg to play them. OpenH264 is used for WebRTC only AFAIK.

Since BW-userx is using -current, it could be that he hasn't installed SDL2 set of packages from the latest update, which are now required by ffmpeg, though I don't know if SDL2 is only needed for ffplay command or is linked with more parts of ffmpeg.

BW-userx, what does "no longer working" mean anyway? Are there any error messages? What does https://www.youtube.com/html5 show you?

BW-userx 03-20-2017 06:47 AM

One more time FRESH install.

I am going to install that SDL2 stuff and see ---

I get a black screen with a fancy F in a circle right in the middle of where the video screen is. I just slapped flash in my home ~/.mozzia/plugins to see if that'd do anything. I did get it to play some videos but not all of . whatever random videos I clicked on. I suspect that is because some are of one type of format and the others are of a different type. It is hard for me to keep up with type of video youtube is playing now day, html5 etc...

audriusk 03-20-2017 07:06 AM

I don't have Flash installed (for security reasons; the darn thing has more holes than Swiss cheese) and I don't recall having any problems watching YouTube videos in the last few months.

"fancy F in a circle" sounds a lot like Flash. Try not to install it when you do a fresh install of the system and see if it helps.

You forgot to tell us what video formats are supported (and not) by your Firefox according to https://www.youtube.com/html5 page.

BW-userx 03-20-2017 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audriusk (Post 5685866)
I don't have Flash installed (for security reasons; the darn thing has more holes than Swiss cheese) and I don't recall having any problems watching YouTube videos in the last few months.

"fancy F in a circle" sounds a lot like Flash. Try not to install it when you do a fresh install of the system and see if it helps.

You forgot to tell us what video formats are supported (and not) by your Firefox according to https://www.youtube.com/html5 page.

O' Tay - this what I got, fresh install - checked youtube no issues. installed just terminology via sboinstall, got issues - it now is showing me an arrow to click on in the video where that F shows to get the video to work. Already --- I think my plugin is still there let me yank that out and see what up.

BW-userx 03-20-2017 07:45 AM

http://imgur.com/a/ckmwE

this is the image I am getting - I pulled flash plugin out and it is back to this again . The only install I did afterwords is installing terminology via sboinstall (sbotools) then it went to where that F is at it shows an arrow instead that I had to click on to get it to load and show.

Now that the flash plugin is no longer there it is showing me that F again

put plugin back it worked having to click the arrow.
installed mhsetroot that installs imLib2 as well
no more video just that F in that photo link

Code:

root@slackwhere⚡️/home/userx⚡️# sboinstall SDL2
SDL2 (SDL2-2.0.5-x86_64-1) is already installed.


audriusk 03-20-2017 08:14 AM

Try renaming your ~/.mozilla directory to something else:
Code:

mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.orig
This will force Firefox to create a fresh profile. It could be that your current profile is messed up in some way.

If you'll want to get back to your old profile:
Code:

rm -rf ~/.mozilla
mv ~/.mozilla.orig ~/.mozilla


BW-userx 03-20-2017 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audriusk (Post 5685890)
Try renaming your ~/.mozilla directory to something else:
Code:

mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.orig
This will force Firefox to create a fresh profile. It could be that your current profile is messed up in some way.

If you'll want to get back to your old profile:
Code:

rm -rf ~/.mozilla
mv ~/.mozilla.orig ~/.mozilla


you know I did that already, it worked until I killed firefox then reopened it then it was back to youtube not showing videos again.

RadicalDreamer 03-20-2017 08:47 AM

Webm is a container format but the codecs used seem to be VP9, VP8, Opus, aac, Vorbis and h264 (I'm actually looking at the codec used in a few videos).

Could there be an issue with terminology?

Try bleachbit. Its what Hillary used on her email servers! It will get rid of those pesky caches.
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/1...arch=bleachbit

BW-userx 03-20-2017 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5685905)
Webm is a container format but the codecs used seem to be VP9, VP8, Opus, aac, Vorbis and h264 (I'm actually looking at the codec used in a few videos).

Could there be an issue with terminology?

Try bleachbit. Its what Hillary used on her email servers! It will get rid of those pesky caches.
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/1...arch=bleachbit

lmao so Hillary is your hero? lol quick get rid of all traces of emails I just got a be president. I just got a' my hubby got no more books in him to support me -- and I'll be out of a job soon if I don't make president.
Code:

exercise caution and review
the output before committing any changes to disk.

haha that means I got a sit and read everything before saying ok... oh my..

Quote:

Could there be an issue with terminology?
seeings how I just started using that again and this was doing this before I even started using terminology -- it'd seem to fall into the NO why should it. it seems anything outside of the Install interferes with it to me.

audriusk 03-20-2017 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5685905)
Webm is a container format but the codecs used seem to be VP9, VP8, Opus, aac, Vorbis and h264 (I'm actually looking at the codec used in a few videos).

Could there be an issue with terminology?

You're right about WebM being a container format, but (according to Wikipedia) WebM can only contain VP8/VP9 video and Vorbis/Opus audio streams, so I was using the term "WebM" loosely to mean these codecs. For H.264 video and AAC audio the container format used (at least by YouTube) is MP4.

Still, this doesn't help BW-userx to solve his problem. And I have no idea how to help him, because it's very hard to understand his posts (at least for me). For whatever reason he communicates very unclearly, ignores some of the questions asked, and all this make me feel frustrated.

I stated this previously and I'll state it again -- on a fresh Slackware (14.2 or -current, it doesn't matter) installation using fresh Firefox profile YouTube should work out of the box, at least videos encoded in VP8/VP9 (and most of them are).

RadicalDreamer 03-20-2017 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 5685906)
lmao so Hillary is your hero? lol quick get rid of all traces of emails I just got a be president. I just got a' my hubby got no more books in him to support me -- and I'll be out of a job soon if I don't make president.

No, she actually convinced me to vote for Trump after her Syria no fly zone and anti-Russia antics. I wasn't going to vote for president or vote third party. She pushed her husband and Obama into wars. She is honest when it comes to her war. I didn't want her to shoot down Russian planes. I knew that Trump was going to continue the quagmire in the Middle East using the war on terror related xenophobia as cover for imperial designs that have nothing to do with 9/11 (no change in policy starting with the Iraq war). I enjoy how he has the whole western part of the Empire in an uproar but he isn't going to do anything and he isn't going to turn the American Empire into a successful business. He is trying to get other countries in the American Empire to fund the imperial burden rather than just use the US. The Gulf States might pay for the destruction of Iran and what they view as heretics, but the Western Europeans aren't going to pay their share of the imperial cost while they push for nuclear war with Russia. The Germans recently told Trump that they aren't going to pay their 2% while the US is wasting 3% on NATO.

RadicalDreamer 03-20-2017 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audriusk (Post 5685917)
You're right about WebM being a container format, but (according to Wikipedia) WebM can only contain VP8/VP9 video and Vorbis/Opus audio streams, so I was using the term "WebM" loosely to mean these codecs. For H.264 video and AAC audio the container format used (at least by YouTube) is MP4.

Still, this doesn't help BW-userx to solve his problem. And I have no idea how to help him, because it's very hard to understand his posts (at least for me). For whatever reason he communicates very unclearly, ignores some of the questions asked, and all this make me feel frustrated.

I stated this previously and I'll state it again -- on a fresh Slackware (14.2 or -current, it doesn't matter) installation using fresh Firefox profile YouTube should work out of the box, at least videos encoded in VP8/VP9 (and most of them are).

You are right, I just think he needs to verify if its a Firefox problem or is it something else. Is only Firefox doing this? Seamonkey work? Mplayer? Xine?

BW-userx 03-20-2017 09:36 AM

I do not know what I am not conveying here --

it is this simple I have a fresh install of Slackware 14.2 current. It is now looking like as soon as I install something/anything past what gets installed afterwords youtube no longer plays the video. It just has that fancy F where the video is http://imgur.com/a/ckmwE

I installed Adobe Flash plugin ~/.mozzia/plugins and as it stands right now it will play some videos but only if I click the arrow that now shows up in place of the big F that is in that image.

it seems I am the only one with this issue. Why? I do not know.

BW-userx 03-20-2017 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5685924)
You are right, I just think he needs to verify if its a Firefox problem or is it something else. Is only Firefox doing this? Seamonkey work? Mplayer? Xine?

if I was having issues with these I'd have said something about them too .. fyi ;) But I am checking Monkey not that I want to use that one if it works, if I did what to use that one I'd be using it and not firefox.

I forgot I even had Monkey btw nevertheless it works even after I pulled the flash plugin, and firefox went back to only sowing a F in the black screen again. http://imgur.com/a/ckmwE

RadicalDreamer 03-20-2017 09:59 AM

What sbopkgs specifically are you installing before Firefox messes up? Are these fresh packages from slackbuilds built on the latest Current?

bassmadrigal 03-20-2017 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 5685927)
I do not know what I am not conveying here --

it is this simple I have a fresh install of Slackware 14.2 current. It is now looking like as soon as I install something/anything past what gets installed afterwords youtube no longer plays the video. It just has that fancy F where the video is http://imgur.com/a/ckmwE

I installed Adobe Flash plugin ~/.mozzia/plugins and as it stands right now it will play some videos but only if I click the arrow that now shows up in place of the big F that is in that image.

it seems I am the only one with this issue. Why? I do not know.

Is this with your shared home with your Void install? Maybe you should try with a fresh user?

And to verify, it should be in ~/.mozilla/plugins, not ~/.mozzia/plugins

BW-userx 03-20-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5685942)
What sbopkgs specifically are you installing before Firefox messes up? Are these fresh packages from slackbuilds built on the latest Current?

I do not fully understand that last part - only this I can submit to you is: using sboinstall puling off of https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/ (i do suppose) a fresh build of terminology screwed it up. I am not going to install Slackware again as it stands at this moment. I already re-installed it 4 times over this. just saying :D every time it works right after the install as soon as I add something else it no longer works. why I do not know. it makes no logical sense whatsoever to me.

sbotools is a precompiled tgz I got saved I do not remember how I got that one, off the sight or slackbuilds I have no /etc/sbotools dir after installing it, as per https://pink-mist.github.io/sbotools...ls.conf.5.html

BW-userx 03-20-2017 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassmadrigal (Post 5685946)
Is this with your shared home with your Void install? Maybe you should try with a fresh user?

And to verify, it should be in ~/.mozilla/plugins, not ~/.mozzia/plugins

it is. My spelling is not as good as yours sorry. What school did you go to? Maybe I can apply there for further assistance. hehe (yeah just being a bit of a smart ass) ;) got a keep a chipper attitude

RadicalDreamer 03-20-2017 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 5685948)
I do not fully understand that last part - only this I can submit to you is: using sboinstall puling off of https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/ (i do suppose) a fresh build of terminology screwed it up. I am not going to install Slackware again as it stands at this moment. I already re-installed it 4 times over this. just saying :D every time it works right after the install as soon as I add something else it no longer works. why I do not know. it makes no logical sense whatsoever to me.

sbotools is a precompiled tgz I got saved I do not remember how I got that one, off the sight or slackbuilds I have no /etc/sbotools dir after installing it, as per https://pink-mist.github.io/sbotools...ls.conf.5.html

I'm asking if you've updated Slackware Current after install and did you build the packages off it?

I just use sbopkg so I don't know anything about that.

BW-userx 03-20-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 5685951)
it is. My spelling is not as good as yours sorry. What school did you go to? Maybe I can apply there for further assistance. hehe (yeah just being a bit of a smart ass) ;) got a keep a chipper attitude

this issue did not even start until Firefox did something to there firefox browser it worked until it was updated past 40x something I forget what version i just got tired of having to open chromiuim (whatever its called linux version chrome to get youtube)

BW-userx 03-20-2017 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5685954)
I'm asking if you've updated Slackware Current after install and did you build the packages off it?

I just use sbopkg so I don't know anything about that.

Oh I am mirroring slack current64 so I got the very latest current on a USB to install so no post update install-new upgrade-all after installing Slack because it already has all of that beforehand. I still pull the gpg off my local mirror though. I hope that answers your question.

using this to mirror
mirror-slackware-current.sh it is a Alien Bob script http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/

to reiterate
this issue did not even start until Firefox did something to there firefox browser it worked until it was updated past 40x something I forget what version i just got tired of having to open chromiuim (whatever its called linux version chrome to get youtube)

BW-userx 03-20-2017 11:02 AM

its half working so I am marking this 1/2 solved
flash plugin

bassmadrigal 03-20-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 5685951)
it is. My spelling is not as good as yours sorry. What school did you go to? Maybe I can apply there for further assistance. hehe (yeah just being a bit of a smart ass) ;) got a keep a chipper attitude

I wasn't trying to be sarcastic in my reply. Just ensuring you were actually putting things in the correct directory. A spelling mistake in a post could be a spelling mistake on the command line. Better to verify rather than assume :)

And you didn't respond to the first half of my post. Is this with your /home that's shared with Void? If so, can you reproduce this issue with a fresh user?

BW-userx 03-20-2017 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassmadrigal (Post 5685998)
...

this network I am using does not post if too much is written within it that cache server they use sucks they must have it set for minus 40kbs --

no offense taken by any means whatsoever. I understand completely. I was the one that was getting loopy over this. The thing is I went through all of this long ago with plugins both flash and pepper-flash and whatnot and nothing worked. So I just gave up installed Linux version of chrome. Finally got tired of having to open that one just for youtube so I posted this in here and it looks like now the flash plugin seems to be working as long as I click that arrow that shows up in the video to have it load flash to make the movie work. that is where it stands right now. so I marked it solved .. thanks for your input --


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