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Old 06-10-2013, 09:56 AM   #1
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S6 or Runit, not systemd


Dear Slackers
There is a discussion going around if systemd is inevitable on slackware.
Slackware is better off without systemd.

If really the init system on slackware has to be changed (which I feel is unwanted, unwarranted) I request Patrick Volkerding and other core developers to consider S6 or Runit
Let slackware be unique. With slackware, is Gentoo / Funtoo using OpenRC. Let others go wherever they want
A former Archlinux user. Easy to get 'banned' on their forums. Just talk something negative about systemd, and you are out.

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Old 06-10-2013, 10:27 AM   #2
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How about everybody just stop talking about systemd? :/
 
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:37 AM   #3
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The only problem with runit is that it is not maintained and nobody is using it.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 11:14 AM   #4
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Dragora Linux uses Runit. The author, Gerit Pape can be contacted on the forums

S6 appears to be active

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:36 AM   #5
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On the other hand, we can just keep what we have 'cause it ain't broke !
 
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:47 PM   #6
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Right, only in the case of eventuality, I said. Hope Pat's thought's remain same as you said.
In one of his posts, I thought that I sensed a bit wavering, so...
 
Old 06-10-2013, 06:37 PM   #7
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Dragora Linux uses Runit. The author, Gerit Pape can be contacted on the forums

S6 appears to be active
Dragora is pretty neat, but it's very immature still. It doesn't even ship with cryptsetup.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 07:06 PM   #8
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If it became necessary, I'd like to see how OpenRC could be implemented on Slackware. However, RUnit and S6 seem viable as well due to their concept of being UNIX oriented and friendly. Slackware aims to be UNIX-like, not Red Hat, Ubuntu, or Other-Linux-like.

Systemd just isn't too stable or well conceived to be a viable alternative to the BSD-derived SysVInit we use. It's Alpha-ware. Patrick already has a history of ONLY using stable and trusted software within Slackware so that's more than likely to remain the state of the system.

There are at least about a dozen or so Init systems that are far more developed and admin friendly than systemd is as it's still Alpha-Class software and realistically nowhere near stable or reliable enough for a production level OS for server or desktop systems..

BootScripts, DEMONS, eINIT, Initng, launchd, mudur, Solaris's System Management Facility, System Starter, Upstart, OpenRC, Classic BSD-Init, even BusyBox's Init. And there are probably more.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 10:43 AM   #9
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Small correction regarding Dragora GNU/Linux. Selk (Matias. A. Fonzo), Maintainer of Dragora, has confirmed (over the mailing list and on IRC at freenode) that in the Dragora GNU/Linux 3.0, SysvinitV + Perp would be the init system, perp provides the supervision
 
  


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