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Old 12-15-2013, 10:31 AM   #31
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A bit off-topic, but I originated this thread, so I feel authorized to hijack it.

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Yes. I can't remember the last time I received a plain text e-mail.
Different situation here, as I get mostly plain text email, still, but I, too, notice, that HTML mail is getting more and more popular. As I like Qt and KDE, this is one reason, why I have an eye on Trojita as a possible future replacement for KMail.


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There some minor differences, but Lightning currently does not work with SeaMonkey. That could change.
It seems to fixed in Seamonkey 2.23, which is available now upstream. I haven't tested it, yet, though, and it is an ongoing annoyance with Seamonkey, Firefox and Thunderbird, that updates of the main program break add-ons/plugins/extensions.

Apart from that, the other (very minor) issue with Seamonkey is that it doesn't integrate as well with the current desktop theme as Firefox. When I use FF in KDE, it looks almost like a KDE application (but I started this thread, because I'd prefer to have a native KDE web browser, if there was one that could do what Firefox can do, i. e. render all the pages I visit correctly and completely). E.g., Firefox adopts Oxygen window decorations and icons. Seamonkey on the other hand refuses to change its look too much even in a Gtk+ environment... E.g., it doesn't pick up the beautiful Faenza theme and icons, here.

I still like Seamonkey a lot, so far, although I have to say that Lightning is inferior compared to the KDE PIM suite calendar. One feature I miss in Lightning, is a hierarchy of tasks and sub-tasks. All you get is a flat list of tasks. I found that TaskCoach complements Seamonkey quite well here, but the KDE PIM suite calendar comes with that feature out-of-the-box.

After all, currently my PoC for Xfce with Seamonkey is quite promising. Xfce is fast and comfortable. Apart from the above mentioned calendar feature I only miss these features, compared to KDE, are the way language settings are done and NFS mounts.

Language settings for the desktop user independent of the system settings and supported in the GUI (it's not acceptable that new *nix users are expected to edit a file, when it is not even clear, what file --- I use ~/.profile, but others recommend to set the language in ~/.xinit or similar). Also, by setting the language in a text file also affects su root. So, if I su to root in a Terminal window, I get German man pages, German error messages etc., when I set my language to German. In KDE I can set this independently. In the root user session I can have system language, i.e. English error messages, etc., which is good when I have to search the web in order to track down a problem. There are much fewer resources available in German language. That's why I consider this a major plus of KDE compared to almost any other desktop environment (I can't comment on Gnome, though, as I don't know it well enough).
NFS mounts in Thunar are a minor issue, too. I have to mount the NFS drive manually, before I can access it with Thunar. I have to say, that Thunar then is lightning fast, faster than even the greatly improved recent Dolphin versions. But in Dolphin I can just enter the IP address (which is still more than I would expect from an unexperience user) to access the drive, whereas for Thunar the user must know the whole syntax of the NFS mount command.

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Old 12-15-2013, 12:39 PM   #32
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...It seems to fixed in Seamonkey 2.23, which is available now upstream. I haven't tested it, yet, though, and it is an ongoing annoyance with Seamonkey, Firefox and Thunderbird, that updates of the main program break add-ons/plugins/extensions.
Found this list of older versions of Lightning that will work with various versions of SeaMonkey Mail.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/sea...#version-1.9.1

This morning I've been using the SeaMonkey Browser and Mail (since finding a version of Lightning that will work) and, so far, I think it will be a suitable replacement for the "old" Opera.

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Old 12-15-2013, 01:19 PM   #33
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Good to know that, thanks. However, I'll first have to check for language support. Some versions of Lightning were compiled with support for just a few languages, but not necessarily mine. So I hope that Seamonkey 2.23 for Slackware will come soon, but if it takes longer than I can wait I have a fallback solution now.

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Old 12-30-2013, 05:20 PM   #34
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Some (disappointing) news. Meanwhile I have tried it on a fresh install on another machine, i.e. on a system with unmodified file and media type to program associations. Still no success, unfortunately.

I meanwhile suspect an issue in some undelying Qt library, shared by Konqueror, Arora, Rekonq and Qupzilla, as I have the same problem with all of them. Obviously it's a rather involved problem, as it only occurs to users in continental Europe, while it doesn't show up for users in North America or the U. K., it seems.

Usually I'd accept this as a result and open a bug report upstream, but in this case I am a little frustrated. I don't even know, if it's a KDE or Qt or whatever related problem. All I have are assumptions, and as the thread shows, the upstream developers of the software that causes the issue might not be able to reproduce it in their respective environment. For some users everything works ok, for some it doesn't.

So, for what project shoud I open a bug report? I don't know. I am running out of ideas and therefore close this thread.

Anyway, thanks to all of you for you patience and support!

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