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Old 07-21-2006, 01:02 PM   #46
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ok scanning with a usb 1.0 scanner definitely works.

however, since i'm testing that pc with samba (different thread) I dont care if I ruined it (i have a backup)

anyway...I have to keep chowing the usb to the user account.

maybe I'll try doing those permissions as in
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=3

Sound like a good plan?

Last edited by XavierP; 07-28-2006 at 01:34 PM.
 
Old 07-21-2006, 03:57 PM   #47
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Hi. Old_Fogie, may I suggest you to try VMware free server ?! I have a USB 2.0 all-in-one LEXMARK (printer, scaner, xerox) and a Digital JVC Camera 2.0 too, and it just works perfectly, just like a real Windows install, and it allows you more than 1 USB device at a time. If you're going to give it a shot, and have any problems I will try to assist you in any way I can. Anyway you choose.. Good luck.
 
Old 07-21-2006, 06:23 PM   #48
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I'm a bit confused about vmware maybe you could help me understand the licensing?

In this thread here on the forums:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=388613

They mention that vmware is only for a short while, then you can no longer create any virtual hosts OS's.

Is that vmware server that you are using, is that from the tutorial link for ubuntu that I put on here?

Were there any special packages you needed in addition to slackware 10.2 that you needed to meet dependencies?

edit: oh and how come qemu is closed source on 'kemu' does that mean some day he turns the switch off and then we can no longer use his project anymore, I don't understand that either tbh.

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Old 07-21-2006, 07:19 PM   #49
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This is what I got from their page. So VMware Server is some kind of a demo for them, to show their power or smth like that, but have much more powerfull products for which you must pay to use. I had to complete a register process and got a serial number, after I entered the serial number at License and Product Expiration I have 'No expiration', look for yourself in this screenshot http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/73/licenseex5.png

Here is the link to it http://www.vmware.com/products/server/

You'll need this how-to, to make it work on slackware http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~jbyrne/vmware.htm

This is from the VMware Server Admin.pdf guide
Quote:
! The real‐time clock function must be compiled into your Linux kernel.
! VMware Server for Linux systems requires that the parallel port PC‐style
hardware option (CONFIG_PARPORT_PC) be built and loaded as a kernel module (that
is, it must be set to m when the kernel is compiled).
And I had a problem with the kernel headers, because I messed them up and the install script couldn't verify the headers with the running kernel version, but if you didn't messed with that, you shouldn't have any problems.

You should go to those webpages and download the Guest OS guide and Server Admin guide and read on... but from what I've told you earlier should get you up and running, I hope. Here are a few screenshots:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/678...inbios2gw1.png
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2594/devicesfh6.png
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3083/vcardramjh2.png
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1484/direct3dzp7.png
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3...diagnetxf8.png
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9629/hardwarevu7.png

Well... Good Luck!
 
Old 07-21-2006, 08:35 PM   #50
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Wow nykey,

I don't know what surprises me more, to see windows run in gnome...

Or..

That you have a screen shot of your bios.

How did you get the screen shot of the bios? It looks like your bios screen is in your gnome.

Oh,

I have windows loaded on my pc already, but on a separate partition. Then I have my suse, mepis and slackware.

Does this mess up your partitions, becuase your IDE drives are being shown in your bios as vmware. Does it do anything funky to your partitions.

If so I'll partitionmagic the drives before starting so I dont lose my boot record.
 
Old 07-21-2006, 09:26 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by Old_Fogie
Wow nykey,

I don't know what surprises me more, to see windows run in gnome...

Or..

That you have a screen shot of your bios.

How did you get the screen shot of the bios? It looks like your bios screen is in your gnome.

Oh,

I have windows loaded on my pc already, but on a separate partition. Then I have my suse, mepis and slackware.

Does this mess up your partitions, becuase your IDE drives are being shown in your bios as vmware. Does it do anything funky to your partitions.

If so I'll partitionmagic the drives before starting so I dont lose my boot record.
It doesn't have anything to do with your real hardware or partitions at all. They are emulated, almost everything. I think it uses your real chipset, the USB devices, and few stuff, the rest is just virtual. There is a possibility to boot an already installed windows system, but I didn't experience that, and it's a bit risky, that's where you can mess things up, so it's better to just install another virtual one.
Well, the screen of the bios was easy to do , when you click 'Power on this virtual machine' (http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1778/poweronnr9.png) you get this http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7109/biosev1.png. As you see you have the option to enter setup, network boot, or rearange your boot devices (floppy,hard drive,cd-rom first/second/last etc.). This is not my real BIOS, it's VMware's so I can't really do bad things to my real system. It has a system similar to QEMU's of storing the virtual machines, I'll show you in some more screenshots. In this screenshot http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1778/poweronnr9.png you see this line Configuration file: /mnt/data/vmware/Windows XP Professional/Windows XP Professional.vmx ! This file is editable, a text file (for example here is where you must add some options to increase your Video RAM), so in my case /mnt/data/vmware is the directory for virtual systems. When you create a virtual machine it will make another directory with it's name in my case Windows XP Professional, and in there, besize the .vmx file you'll have few others, I'll show you in this link http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/737...alfilesya5.png. The .vmdk file as you can see is 5Gb, so that's my image file, and in that image file is my virtual system. You will be assisted by the graphic interface and you'll see all will come in place. If you will use it and want to add more RAM to your Video Card, just let me know, but keep in mind this only works for Windows 2000/XP Guest.

Oh, and for Slackware (all Linux I guess, afterall, you can choose (and it's Recommended, to emulate your VMware disk as SCSI disk) and for Windows Recommended is IDE.

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Old 07-22-2006, 12:50 PM   #52
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nykey...how in the world you got this to work is beyond me.

this is a complete nightmare for me at my level of knowledge.

apparently, this is another application that requires PAM...this installer just aborts.

perl..what a mess. it commits all these changes to your system, no ./configure guess at all, it just mass blows out files throughout your entire system.

so many app's want this PAM, I guess I'm going to have to use MAC, cough..I mean gnome.

thanks for all your help, I'll book mark this for later. but I dont think running windows on linux is for me.

I'm gonna just see if I can somehow get a partition to mount with a virtual slackware. I still cant get that or networking in qemu, but I have to read more man pages, and google and help doc's for about another 8 mo's and get it...frustrating.

bye for now.
 
Old 07-22-2006, 08:16 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by Old_Fogie
apparently, this is another application that requires PAM...this installer just aborts.

so many app's want this PAM, I guess I'm going to have to use MAC, cough..I mean gnome.
PAM isn't actually tied to GNOME itself. We have a thread on the Dropline site about how users can install our PAM packages without the entire GNOME suite. Many Slackware users have installed these packs and have a successful PAM-enabled system without GNOME. You can find the thread here:

http://forums.droplinegnome.org/viewtopic.php?p=28938
 
Old 07-22-2006, 08:39 PM   #54
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thanks for this link, i'm about to install dropline, and if it dont work i may give that a shot then.

i had tried linuxpackages pam and it did not work for me
 
Old 07-23-2006, 05:30 AM   #55
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Daniel de Kok wrote a short HOWTO about installing a minimal PAM suitable for a VMware server on Slackware in his blog: http://danieldekok.blogspot.com/2006...are-linux.html
No need to install all of Dropline Gnome just to get VMware on your box.
Eric
 
Old 07-23-2006, 10:25 AM   #56
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Just for everyones info, there are new versions of kqemu & qemu on the qemu site. Also an upgrade to vde on the vde site. I downloaded Erics slackbuilds for these three, modified them appropriately, & installed them yesterday. I am now having a much better experience with win2k in qemu now. First off, it is much faster, I think because of improvements in the kqemu module. I installed vde first, then kqemu, then qemu & tested between each install. I noticed a big difference after installing kqemu. I also could not get win2k to do all the updates before this upgrade, but let it autoupdate last night & all was well.
Regards,
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:28 AM   #57
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I'll start building new packages, then :-)

Eric
 
Old 07-23-2006, 11:47 AM   #58
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I'll start building new packages, then :-)

Eric
Great. Like you don't do enough already....lol
 
Old 07-23-2006, 01:28 PM   #59
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Great. Like you don't do enough already....lol
After 3 weeks of extended holiday, my TODO list for compiling new packages is huge :-) The qemu/kqemu/vde is nearly there, though.

Eric
 
Old 07-23-2006, 01:58 PM   #60
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Hey guys, I'm not sure If I have a bad dvd-writer/rom drive or if I'm doing this wrong for QEMU.

I believe that I should be able to "flip" cd's (slightly tweaked from eric's how-to for my purposes) using " eject -f cdrom " then "change cdrom /dev/hdd" as my dvd-rom is /dev/hdd and I have a folder /mnt/dvd and I do have a symlink going from /dev/cdrom to /dev/dvd to /dev/hdd.

I don't need to do "in a console terminal" outside of qemu to manually un-mount then mount the dvd to /mnt/dvd then go back to qemu and tell it to 'change cdrom /dev/hdd' right.

QEMU does the mounting for me right? Kind of like xmms when I play a music cd right?

I can't get an install off two real cd's LOL for slackware.
 
  


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