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If you want to accuse me of moving the goal posts, that's fine. In python, you can bring up an interactive session by merely typing "python" and enter lines of code to test whatever it is you are attempting to do. As it so happens, clisp also brings up an interactive session by merely typing "clisp". And guile gives you one by typing "guile". Hell, even basic did that back in the stone age of 8 bit machines and 4K RAM. "Interpreted" without "interactive" is pretty weak tea, in my book. YMMV. Given the popularity of perl and ruby, the mileage must vary a lot. |
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/me reminds self that this is a "which programming language is best" discussion and to keep things in perspective |
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But hey we should not judge him. He has programmed in both languages right. He probably knows how to print "hello world!" in the screen as well... |
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I think perl is still pretty useful especially for admins. |
True. But Perl 5 has been around for quite a while, which was my point.
I realize it's useful, especially for pattern matching. I just don't prefer it because you can do the same thing with AWK and sed and since I don't use Windows, I don't worry about cross-platformness. Alex Brinister |
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Not to hijack this thread; but don't want to create another related thread.
- After reading a lot about LISP history(and derivatives), I stumbled upon this- http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/, so I planned to include Clisp or SBCL in my to-learn list. However, could anybody please suggest me another way to start rather than Emacs plus slime(?), as I never ever touched Emacs before and tried miserably last night to the end of the frustration. May be I'm more of the plain old vi guy. - Tried installing sbcl from slackbuils but when I run sbcl in terminal it throws an error saying something like - Quote:
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I'm not an experienced Lisper but I've gone through what you're going through now. I ended up with Emacs + slime. There's also LispWorks IDE but a free/personal editions has some limitations: http://www.lispworks.com/downloads/index.html
From time to time I check this blog to find out about the progress of Light Table, which is a very promising IDE for Lisp (Clojure) still in very early stages. In terms of resources I also like "Land of Lisp" (released last year) http://landoflisp.com/ Some time ago I started reading LOL - Let Over Lambda (http://letoverlambda.com/), a book about Lisp (but it's too difficult for me at this moment) where the author actually recommends Vim for Lisp development claiming that he doesn't have time to mess with setting up Emacs. Why don't you stay with clisp which comes with stock Slackware? |
Thanks for taking time in responding, some good resource those are.
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Any other suggestions are pretty much welcome. Regards. EDIT1 : I missed the part that cusp uses SBCL which I can't seem to run at the moment. So I'd be needing more suggestions now. Update : Found dandelion for eclipse, which works with clisp. http://sourceforge.net/projects/dandelion-ecl/ Regards. |
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Come to think of that, there's a reason why you rarely find complete support of lisp outside emacs EDIT: there's a viper mode or elvis mode, you will feel comfort with, even plain emacs user uses it for the sake of speed |
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Lisp is pretty much like Slackware. Its the oldest comonly used Lang today after Fortran and with very strong roots. It should be a language of choice for Slackware users. It is not a language for getting a job as I rarely come across any Lisp jobs in my searches but it is a great language to understand computer science. Same with Slackware, you won't find any job postings looking for a "Slackware Admin" however... It is a great distro to learn and use.
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