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Old 04-15-2010, 09:03 AM   #1
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Problems with Nvidia graphics in slack -curent


Hi,

I am using nvidia fx 5500 graphic card and still have unresolved problems with graphic. At this moment I cannot set X window system to work properly. My first attempt after installing slack -current was to install nvidia's 'blob' driver. As it is know 'blob' conflicts with 'noveau' open source driver for nvidia cards. 'Blob' cannot install with noveau running. Thus I blacklisted 'noveau' and installed the 'blob'. After I restarted the computer it seemed it is Ok, but 1) it is really very hard to set the proper value of gamma correction, contrast and brightnest, 2) after logout the X server didn't restart and computer was 'dumb'.

I have some prerequisites to suspect the 'nv' X.org native driver for bugs, but I tested and driver is ok, however it is impossible to work wit this driver, it can only accomplish 60 Hz V. refresh,

The command 'dmesg' gave this
Code:
NVIDIA taints kernel
(oops:it's clear, the kernel cannot be longer pure with 'blob' :-))

Moreover, the common configuration procedure
Code:
$ Xorg -configure
doesn't work at all. The same happened: computer is freezing, no mouse, no keyboard. I tried some X ServerFlags options like "AllowEmptyInput" but no help.

I will try to use "noveau", but as I understand it should be compiled from the source as it is a part of kernel ( why?).

Any idea what's wrong?

Additionally: in fact I have to graphic devices - nvidia on AGP and VIA graphic onboard card (VT1344). BIOS points to AGP as primary graphic device.
 
Old 04-15-2010, 09:10 AM   #2
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I don't know what the "blob" is, and I do not know anything about "nouveau".

Have you tried installing the official driver from the NVidia website, using their proceedure? Whenever the official driver is not available in the distro repository, I have found that using NVidia's intaller **always** works.
 
Old 04-15-2010, 09:33 AM   #3
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Yes I installed 173.14.25 driver.

What about 'kernel tainting'?
 
Old 04-15-2010, 10:19 AM   #4
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"Kernel tainting" refers to the fact that you are adding a non-free kernel module to the open kernel. This is what I call a philosophy warning. If it bothers you that your kernel isn't completely open and free, then don't install the closed source nvidia drivers and use something like noveau. If it doesn't bother you, use the closed source drivers.
 
Old 04-15-2010, 10:27 AM   #5
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Yes I installed 173.14.25 driver.
Current version is 195.36.15
See here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d...195.36.15.html

Found using this page:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us
 
Old 04-15-2010, 11:28 AM   #6
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Hello,

Quote:
Originally Posted by igadoter View Post
1) it is really very hard to set the proper value of gamma correction, contrast and brightnest
What does this mean its hard to set Did you try nvidia-settings?

Quote:
Originally Posted by igadoter View Post
2) after logout the X server didn't restart and computer was 'dumb'
Interesting, someone had this problem just recently and solved it
by upgrading to the newest driver available (but if your card is not
supported by the newest driver, you are stuck with the "legacy" driver.)

I just saved an old computer from the trash can and it has the same
problem with the "legacy" nvidia driver...

There is a workaround for this problem.
For example, if you use kdm you can add:
Code:
TerminateServer=true
to your kdmrc file. This will make the X Server restart at logout.
I still think there is something wrong with Xorg or the nvidia legacy
driver. This should work fine out of the box...

Greetings
 
Old 04-15-2010, 12:23 PM   #7
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Current version is 195.36.15
I get the driver using Nvidia web searching engine. Moreover the driver 173.14.25 is recommended by Nvidia for my video card.

Finally the version 195.36.15 didn't compile on ubuntu after I made the upgrade to ubuntu 10.1. Rather I will try the older version of this driver. Now on ubuntu I am using 173.14.22.

Thanks for explanation what does it mean 'tainting'. I thought it is some kind of a conflict between kernel and a driver which may cause crashes.
 
Old 04-15-2010, 12:28 PM   #8
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That's not the version recommended for the fx5500 by Nvidia. The OP is using the recommended (173.14.25) legacy driver.

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree8...rtedchips.html
Quote:
Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.

The 173.14.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:

NVIDIA GPU product Device PCI ID
---------------------------------------
GeForce FX 5500 0x0326
 
Old 04-15-2010, 02:59 PM   #9
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I'm sorry if I misled anyone, but I simply went to the NVidia website and plugged in fx5500. When others do this, does NVidia give a different answer than I got????
 
Old 04-15-2010, 03:30 PM   #10
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I'm sorry if I misled anyone, but I simply went to the NVidia website and plugged in fx5500. When others do this, does NVidia give a different answer than I got????
Yes, I've just checked, on nvidia poland website you get
173.14.25.
 
Old 04-15-2010, 04:49 PM   #11
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Interesting---now, if I search for FX 5500 (from my 64-bit machine) thw site just hangs.....
 
  


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