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Old 09-24-2009, 09:44 AM   #16
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I should have mentioned, but I am using the latest .31 kernel.
Ok, you can turn on KMS for radeon. You will get native resolution even in VESA.
 
Old 09-24-2009, 12:47 PM   #17
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If everything works, look what modules your system need and trim your kernel. Why monolithic?
Kernel is already about as trimmed as can be

Monolithic, because I simply don't need modules, and appreciate the better performance of having my drivers compiled in, and as I'm quite security minded, I also prefer not having the possible security risk there.
 
Old 09-24-2009, 06:10 PM   #18
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Ok, you can turn on KMS for radeon. You will get native resolution even in VESA.
Hmm, that's a staging driver, right? I disabled all the experimental stuff. How have you found it? Is it simply a matter of enabling it, and you will be able to choose the correct vga mode?

It is better than the radeonfb driver, and if so how? How does it differ?
 
Old 09-24-2009, 11:14 PM   #19
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Monolithic, because I simply don't need modules
What about usb (for instance)? Do you build:
a) every HCI variation in;
b) just the ones your laptop usb needs?

If a) - it 's against the idea of small, fast kernel (you load drivers you don't need).
If b) - you miss the chance to have various usb devices you may meet in the future working.

Just curious
 
Old 09-25-2009, 01:10 AM   #20
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What about usb (for instance)? Do you build:
a) every HCI variation in;
b) just the ones your laptop usb needs?

If a) - it 's against the idea of small, fast kernel (you load drivers you don't need).
If b) - you miss the chance to have various usb devices you may meet in the future working.

Just curious
Why would I need to compile in every HCI variation? USB 2.0 is just EHCI, and to add in UHCI and OHCI for compatability is hardly a burden. Unless I am unsure of what you mean?

HID devices are generic, and don't change to much, and honestly, what devices am I going to need on my laptop? USB keys are the only thing really, and that is easy enough. I'm not worried about things like joysticks and such.

At the moment, scanners and cameras and such won't work, but it would not be difficult, or violate b) to add in further generic support.

I don't use slackware for a replacement for Windows, or as a desktop system. I watch movies and play music under it while doing stuff, but still prefer Windows for most desktop stuff. I use slack for my programming work , research, pen testing, virtual machines, all of this sort of fun stuff.

Having a very small and optimized kernel, without modules(which have some performance and security issues) makes far more sense for my configuration
 
Old 09-25-2009, 01:40 AM   #21
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Example:
1. You run out of usb slots
2. You take first usb hub available
3. Unfortunately, it's OHCI.
So - do you have ohci support built-in "just in case" (IMO negation of fast'n'small kernel idea) or leave it as a module (kernel stays small, module loads only when you need it) ?
Seems like I'm in kernelosophical mood this morning
 
Old 09-25-2009, 03:12 AM   #22
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Example:
1. You run out of usb slots
2. You take first usb hub available
3. Unfortunately, it's OHCI.
So - do you have ohci support built-in "just in case" (IMO negation of fast'n'small kernel idea) or leave it as a module (kernel stays small, module loads only when you need it) ?
Seems like I'm in kernelosophical mood this morning
Well, that is quite an unlikely scenario. I have never run out of slots, don't own and have no intention of buying a hub, nor know anyone who would own a hub.

Even so, enabling ohci support, if you felt it was needed, even only in some cases, would still be small enough that it would not negate the fast'n'small kernel philosphy, and is preferable to having many modules that might be needed just-in-case, and the security and performance concerns that go along with that decision.
 
  


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