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Old 06-29-2010, 12:50 PM   #211
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Gapan posted his fix for intel graphics in the slackware forum when it was at 13.1rc. His thread should be stickied. He does a nice job with salix.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 01:25 PM   #212
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Gapan posted his fix for intel graphics in the slackware forum when it was at 13.1rc. His thread should be stickied. He does a nice job with salix.
You mean this one:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...rdware-815119/

He's using the package from salix ... so I guess I'll stick to salix on a platform with intel graphics.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 01:33 PM   #213
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I am running Slackware 13.1 on two Intel-powered notebooks without any problems. My Asus eeepc 1000h runs 32-bit and my Lenovo T400 runs 64-bit Slackware.
It not just "buggy or not working". But yes, Intel and Redhat engineers should get the blame for this mess of bad driver development.

Eric
 
Old 06-29-2010, 01:47 PM   #214
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Perhaps it will be better to post
"What to do to make slack better distro?"
There are so many annoying things in Slackware .... The list all of them will be very long.

Yeah, yeah. I'm a troll (Arggh)

I dislike 'netconfig'. And, how to say ... Slackware is a 'hungry' system. Only Slackware
and Windows may coexist. If you have other system then you will have to meet the well known question
"HOWTO multi-boot with LILO"
A long time ago I resigned to find an answer. Now I'm using GRUB from Ubuntu.

All of this I dedicate to all those who are using Slack since the time it was borned.
 
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:21 PM   #215
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And, how to say ... Slackware is a 'hungry' system. Only Slackware and Windows may coexist. If you have other system then you will have to meet the well known question
"HOWTO multi-boot with LILO"

A long time ago I resigned to find an answer. Now I'm using GRUB from Ubuntu.
The best answer I've heard for that question is to have Ubuntu install GRUB to the root partition rather than the master boot record. Then it's a simple matter to update LILO to the point to the Ubuntu root, where GRUB chainloads from there. Here's a good post.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 02:42 PM   #216
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You don't even need to install LILO, at all. If you have Ubuntu installed, add Slackware to that grub config file.

P.S. I realize that the intel drivers are crappy no matter what, but still, it would be nice if intel graphics "just worked" like most other things, you know. In fact, I don't even know how to troubleshoot these drivers.

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Old 06-29-2010, 02:58 PM   #217
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@Lufbery, @H_TeXMeX_H,

You guys missed the point. It is not about that there is a solution (or an answer) but
about that anyone have to meet this problem.

Really there is no way to make our life simpler?
 
Old 06-29-2010, 03:06 PM   #218
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@Lufbery, @H_TeXMeX_H,

You guys missed the point. It is not about that there is a solution (or an answer) but
about that anyone have to meet this problem.

Really there is no way to make our life simpler?
If you look a t Fedora and Ubuntu, they had exactly the same issues with the Intel drivers in their distros. Intel driver development is done by people with narrow minds. If the driver works with your hardware, then good for you, if it does not work there is no way to find hoops to jump through in order to make it work (unless you revert to non-Kernel Mode Setting driver like Salix does... which is a kludge).

Eric
 
Old 06-29-2010, 03:09 PM   #219
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@Lufbery, @H_TeXMeX_H,

You guys missed the point. It is not about that there is a solution (or an answer) but
about that anyone have to meet this problem.

Really there is no way to make our life simpler?
I don't think Slackware is "simple" in the sense of not having to configure the system, although it is "simple" in the sense of not having difficulty when one needs to configure the system. Setting up LILO to chainload with GRUB seems pretty simple.

I suppose one could post that one doesn't like that Slackware is not like Ubuntu or OpenSUSE, but I take it differently. What do you not like about Slackware, given Slackware's overall context.

In other words, Slackware users are expected to edit configuration files to have a fully-configured system. Posting that one doesn't like that is like posting that a bicycle only has two wheels.

One thing I do not like about Slackware: its upgrade cycle seems to happen almost exactly right before Emacs and KDE have major updates.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 03:25 PM   #220
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(unless you revert to non-Kernel Mode Setting driver like Salix does... which is a kludge)
Huh? Where did you get that idea?
 
Old 06-29-2010, 04:57 PM   #221
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To be precise, IMO Slackware is really one of the best.
I use Slackware since I started to use Linux at all.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 06:47 PM   #222
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http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...screen-809629/
Was the one I was speaking of. I have intel graphics on my laptop, but haven't bothered with upgrading it since 13+GSB works perfectly for what I need it to do so I have no idea whether I would have any problems with 13.1 or not. I've seen a few people with issues with Intel and 13.1 and have pointed them to that thread and it seems to have worked for them. If I understand correctly it's just turning off kernel modesetting and using a previous driver version?
 
Old 06-29-2010, 08:08 PM   #223
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Stuff that bug me on Slackware:

No default /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall.

No bootsplash option - this is difficult (and dangerous!) to configure, I'm trying the new plymouth thing, but still no clue.

bash-completion on /extra, I mean come on!!!

Binary 'builds' of
mozilla-firefox
mozilla-thunderbird
=
break-a-lotŪ

 
Old 06-29-2010, 08:19 PM   #224
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Stuff that bug me on Slackware:

No default /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall.
There is one. It's effectively blank. I'm sure that you have an idea of what a good default would be. I'll bet that it isn't mine.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 08:39 PM   #225
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I've noticed that while a few of these posts may be real issues, most are very subjective, and a great many more seem to me like people not liking the direction of the upstream sources......kernel-mode-setting for instance. Most of the things I see in this thread seem like things that Slackware's vanilla nature + published build scripts make relatively trivial to change to suit your liking. Maybe time consuming, but not difficult, and I think worth it. I mean the KDE.SlackBuild will build and upgrade kde for you as it goes. Firefox dev releases generally build fine with the slackbuilds, etc.

I have 4 Slack boxes and not one of them is like the other. 64 mutltilb, headless with no X(sometimes flux), 32 current with GSB and KDE 4.4.90, 13 with GSB and no KDE. RC/beta/alpha/dev kernels and software...........and still stable. It's awesome. How big would it be if Pat started adding things like splash screens? I just don't ever seem to have a problem I didn't cause.

I dunno, maybe I'm just new and haven't had time to not like things, or I just don't know any better, but I really do think it's awesome the way it is.

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