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Old 08-31-2009, 12:38 PM   #16
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easuter, I'm sure I've done something to offend you. I did not do this with any intent, and I am not looking for a fight. However, your statement is false. Reading the instructions will do nothing to put the software on any functioning computer. You still have to install it.

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Old 08-31-2009, 12:49 PM   #17
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My definition of simple is easy to use. For example, suppose I am in the middle of the package choosing screen and for some stupid reason I hit return (like I did the first time I tried to install). There is no way to go back to picking the apps on the previous group. Sure, you say, don't hit return. But what choice do I have AFTER I've accidentally done it? A "simple" solution would be to provide a means to go back.
Actually, I agree with Forrestt here. I have, on occasion, hit return after manually selecting only a few of the packages I needed. Luckily, restarting the install was trivial and just meant that I had wasted only a few minutes. Most other distros allow you to review your settings and change them if needed, it would be nice if Slackware was able to do that. It's not a deal breaker for me, as it taught me to be more careful and not to rush through the install, but a means to go back or to jump back to a particular point in the install would be nice.

On the other hand, though, I do find Slackware pretty easy to install - despite being very nervous when I first installed it
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:01 PM   #18
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easuter, I'm sure I've done something to offend you. I did not do this with any intent, and I am not looking for a fight. However, your statement is false. Reading the instructions will do nothing to put the software on any functioning computer. You still have to install it.

Forrest
I was never offended, I only tried to point out what seemed like a simple solution to your "problem".

Yes, just reading the instructions won't make the software install itself, obviously .
When I first tried Slackware I read the "Installation help" section of slackware.com and browsed through the help file on the installation disk and all the information necessary to get it installed was there.

Granted, the ncurses installer did look weird the first time (after distrohopping through many other systems with a graphical setup), but it got the job done just fine.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:06 PM   #19
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I downloaded and continue seeding the two DVDs.

Just out of curiosity: do people still download de CDs?
(maybe I should start a poll instead of asking here )
My apologies to the OP for temporarily derailing this worthwhile thread. Seeding the 13.0 DVD now.
Also, please consider buying some stuff at the Slackware Store.
I do use the CD torrents, niels.horn. I've got two Plll Slackware boxes that only have CDROM drives in them.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:12 PM   #20
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I was never offended, I only tried to point out what seemed like a simple solution to your "problem".
I don't have a problem. The installer looks just like most of the installers I used when I first got into Linux in 1995. I just feel that it could be easier to use (and I thought the same thing back then).

I now have Slackware installed in a VM (Virtual Box) and am in the process of getting the VBox video driver set up. I'm not ready to give up Fedora yet, but who knows.

Forrest
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:17 PM   #21
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Here's a thought. Perhaps you could give Pat an email about the installer. He could probably find some way of modifying it, if enough requests are given about it. Or he could pass it along to one of the others in the dev-team. Or, I like your idea, you could add your own, or since the source code to the installer is readily available, make a few modifications yourself. If enough people use it, and like it; perhaps Pat would be more than happy to incorporate your changes to the installer. Just throwing out ideas here.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:17 PM   #22
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I don't have a problem. The installer looks just like most of the installers I used when I first got into Linux in 1995. I just feel that it could be easier to use (and I thought the same thing back then).
But...you were saying, in ALL CAPS, that you were struggling to get Slackware installed. That appeared to be the problem...so I made a suggestion.

Sorry!
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:19 PM   #23
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Also, please consider buying some stuff at the Slackware Store.
I agree 100%. I personally have a subscription for the DVD, so that Pat can count on my money whenever a new version is released. And I get a discount in return.
I will mail the folks at the Slackware store with a suggestion though:
- Ask each subscriber if they want to include any extra items with their new CD / DVD
This way I can save on shipping and get some extra merchandise once in a while. For instance, I would like to buy a T-shirt, but the shipping for only one item makes it expensive.

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I do use the CD torrents, niels.horn. I've got two Plll Slackware boxes that only have CDROM drives in them.
OK, I am spoiled... Only one of my machines does not have a DVD drive (my server, a PIII box also), but I can mount the disk remotely over the network.

I asked to know if it is worth the trouble downloading the CDs and sharing them through the torrent-system...
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:34 PM   #24
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I agree 100%. I personally have a subscription for the DVD, so that Pat can count on my money whenever a new version is released. And I get a discount in return.
I will mail the folks at the Slackware store with a suggestion though:
- Ask each subscriber if they want to include any extra items with their new CD / DVD
This way I can save on shipping and get some extra merchandise once in a while. For instance, I would like to buy a T-shirt, but the shipping for only one item makes it expensive.


OK, I am spoiled... Only one of my machines does not have a DVD drive (my server, a PIII box also), but I can mount the disk remotely over the network.

I asked to know if it is worth the trouble downloading the CDs and sharing them through the torrent-system...
Don't feel you need to download the CD ISOs on my account, niels.horn, as I'm unsure at the moment if I'm going to upgrade my old boxes right away. Other users may appreciate the ISOs.
I like the suggestion of tweaking the items offered at the store.

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Old 08-31-2009, 01:36 PM   #25
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I downloaded D1 & D2 for my installation since I don't use kde on my older machines and they don't have an dvd player/burner.
I've uploaded 330 megs so far.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:42 PM   #26
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I have added all the torrents to my system. 64bit-DVD is done and has been shared. The rest are downloading or queued.

Forrest
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:44 PM   #27
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I am seeding the 13.0 DVD using rtorrent running in screen. Detach the session... logout... and it just keeps up up uploading.. :-)
 
Old 08-31-2009, 05:56 PM   #28
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Hey forrestt - just wanted to thank you for seeding, and helping to spread the slack gospel, even though you're not fully "cult"ivated, just yet.

I have no issues with what you said in your original post, and respect your opinion(s), though I may respectfully disagree.

Ultimately, you're a good example of what Gnu/Linux represents: freedom of choice.

Again, thanx for your role.

cheers,
 
Old 08-31-2009, 08:02 PM   #29
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I am seeding the dvd-64 now. Have been for two days. My upload is not that fast, but I hope it helps some.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 08:10 PM   #30
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I'm seeding both 13.0 DVDs and plan to until 13.2 is released. I hope everyone is enjoying their shiny new OS! Tonight I get to install Win 7 in a virtual on my SL13 box too!
 
  


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