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Old 07-03-2012, 07:39 PM   #1
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Smile Please help me get the hang of this, some simple questions.


Ok, a brief summary of my knowledge. I used slackware years ago. I am used to windows and Mac OS X. So, now that you know I'm a total newbie to linux and slack lets continue =).

I managed to use a guide on installing slackware. I think I did ok. I installed 13.37 and made a 1gb swap partition and the rest is for linux. I then managed to get my network card going and got on the web. I then used a wget command to get all *.txz files from an ftp with them and then used upgragepkg I believe it was to upgrade them. In all of this I was googling guides on how to do it. So here is where I am. I want to make my own kernel so when everything boots up it does it quickly and has no unnecessary bloat. Every guide I have found is outdated and I keep getting confused as to what processor settings to use. This is install on a Lenovo 3000 N100, which from what I understand uses an Intel Core Duo T2300 processor.

My other questions would be how do I know all of my components are installed ok. I am used to windows so if something is off I get a beautiful yellow ? or !, not even sure how to check in Linux. I don't think my graphics card is installed properly as it doesn't go higher than 1280x1024 and I am pretty sure I should be able to goto 1680x something. My sound seems to work fine, but my wireless card is not up and going yet. It is a Broadcom 43xx card.

So aside from those I guess I just don't know where to go next to have a complete, unbloated, fully working, all hardware properly set up system. I am in love with this OS and need to learn more. Please help! Thanks in advance and I will read as much on it as I can through the forum and learn as I go.

Note: I did try to update the kernel multiple times usually ending up in me guessing what to use and then it wouldn't run properly upon reboot. At least I tried right!?
 
Old 07-03-2012, 08:02 PM   #2
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Hello

I upgraded the for kernel 3.4.4 some time ago, and did again last saturday in my new machine, its very easy I follow it:

In general process:
http://2012revolution.us/doku.php?id=start

To configure the kernel before compile, search for you hardware here:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel

For it and to know,what's your devices and if the modules and drivers is working:

Code:
# lspci -v
Probably your wireless card will work after upgrade

Pay atention in warnings and error after make the modules before install them....



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Old 07-03-2012, 08:21 PM   #3
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I tried that and ended up using the localyesoncfig command or whatever he does and it sent a huge wall of confusing text at me asking questions. Then I didn't know what to use for half of the settings in menu config. I tried core2/ newer xenon for my CPU as it had pentium pro in use. Then upon rebooting my keyboard didn't work , usb keyboard right now as the one in the laptop isn't working. I also couldn't even boot in as my keyboard wasn't working. I noticed errors streaming down fast as it was loading the kernel =\. I guess I can try it again, just want more info first I guess. Thank you, I will check out the command you posted.

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Hello

I upgraded the for kernel 3.4.4 some time ago, and did again last saturday in my new machine, its very easy I follow it:

In general process:
http://2012revolution.us/doku.php?id=start

To configure the kernel before compile, search for you hardware here:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel

For it and to know,what's your devices and if the modules and drivers is working:

Code:
# lspci -v
Probably your wireless card will work after upgrade

Pay atention in warnings and error after make the modules before install them....



Cheers
Looking at the gentoo wiki on it makes it seem less confusing, but there are SO many options checked in the kernel, would love to know what is not necessary to have. I guess that will come in time =).

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Old 07-03-2012, 08:34 PM   #4
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I tried that and ended up using the localyesoncfig command or whatever he does and it sent a huge wall of confusing text at me asking questions. Then I didn't know what to use for half of the settings in menu config. I tried core2/ newer xenon for my CPU as it had pentium pro in use. Then upon rebooting my keyboard didn't work , usb keyboard right now as the one in the laptop isn't working. I also couldn't even boot in as my keyboard wasn't working. I noticed errors streaming down fast as it was loading the kernel =\. I guess I can try it again, just want more info first I guess. Thank you, I will check out the command you posted.
When I did the step localyesconfig I hit the enter until the end, remaining all the same, I change the configuration for my devices in 'menuconfig' step, and made the modules, in the final of this last step the console returns the errors or/and warnings.

Do You use a USB keyboard? The 2.6 kernel just recognize to me the PS/2 keyboard at boot time, with the 3.4.4 kernel USB keyboard works.


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Old 07-03-2012, 08:34 PM   #5
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OK, lets answer that step by step:
Quote:
I then used a wget command to get all *.txz files from an ftp with them and then used upgragepkg I believe it was to upgrade them. In all of this I was googling guides on how to do it.
This is the way it was done in previous versions. 13.37 has slackpkg installed, which will do the upgrade process for you. It is pretty easy. First you have to become root and edit the file /etc/slackpkg/mirrors. Remove the # in front of a mirror near you and save the file. Then launch
Code:
slackpkg update
to update the package database and then
Code:
slackpkg install-new
slackpkg upgrade-all
slackpkg clean-system
The install-new and clean-system commands are normally only necessary on a Slackware -current system, but they can't hurt on a stable system.

Quote:
I want to make my own kernel so when everything boots up it does it quickly and has no unnecessary bloat.
While this is something you can aim towards (and I don't want to discourage you) I would do this only if you are able to understand exactly what you are doing and how to troubleshoot your system when something fails. Anyways, a good guide from AlienBob (one of the Slackware developers) can be found here: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/...kernelbuilding

Quote:
I don't think my graphics card is installed properly as it doesn't go higher than 1280x1024 and I am pretty sure I should be able to goto 1680x something.
From what I can see on the web the N100 has an Intel 945G video chip, which is supported out of the box, and a 1280x800 display. The driver will normally not allow to use higher settings than the native display resolution (also, 1680x1050 on a low-cost 15,4" notebook would be rather uncommon).

Quote:
my wireless card is not up and going yet. It is a Broadcom 43xx card.
This card has a driver pre-installed, but it needs proprietary firmware that is not installed by default due to license issues. ou can easily install it using a SlackBuild, namely this one: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.../b43-firmware/
The easiest way to get this installed would be to install sbopkg together with the queue-files and use this nice program to install the firmware.

Quote:
I am in love with this OS and need to learn more.
Have a look at the SlackBook: http://www.slackbook.org/beta/
When it comes to Linux knowledge you should also have a look at the ArchWiki and Gentoo's wiki:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Main_Page
 
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:46 PM   #6
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Also the first time you run slackpkg, first run:

Code:
slackpkg update gpg
Then run:

Code:
slackpkg update
Code:
slackpkg install-new
Code:
slackpkg upgrade-all
Code:
slackpkg clean-system
 
Old 07-03-2012, 08:55 PM   #7
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You guys rock. I will do all of this tonight. I guess I'm stuck at 1280x1024. I read in a CNET spec review on it that it went to 1680 http://www.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-3...-31756411.html

How would I go about confirming maximum resolution?
 
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On a German side I found different specs for that machine, looking at Lenovo's site reveals that this notebook was sold in different configurations: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/deta...cID=MIGR-63446
If you launch
Code:
xrandr
it will show you a list of the supported resolutions for your display (should be named LVDS).
 
Old 07-03-2012, 09:08 PM   #9
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On a German side I found different specs for that machine, looking at Lenovo's site reveals that this notebook was sold in different configurations: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/deta...cID=MIGR-63446
If you launch
Code:
xrandr
it will show you a list of the supported resolutions for your display (should be named LVDS).
I would assume this means 1280 is my max =\:

bash-4.1$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 800, maximum 4096 x 4096
LVDS1 connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm
1280x800 60.0*+
1024x768 60.0
800x600 60.3 56.2
640x480 59.9
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
TV1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
 
Old 07-03-2012, 09:19 PM   #10
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Hope it is ok to post this block of text. My question is some of these don't say driver in use or module. Does this mean they are not working?

bash-4.1# lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2061
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information: Len=09 <?>
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
Kernel modules: intel-agp

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2062
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
Memory at d0200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
I/O ports at 1800 [size=8]
Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at d0300000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915

00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2062
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at d0280000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2066
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 40
Memory at d0340000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00003fff
Memory behind bridge: 84000000-841fffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000084200000-00000000843fffff
Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2067
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [180] Root Complex Link
Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 00004000-00004fff
Memory behind bridge: d0000000-d00fffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000084400000-00000000845fffff
Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2068
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [180] Root Complex Link
Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 206b
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
I/O ports at 1820 [size=32]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 206c
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
I/O ports at 1840 [size=32]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 206d
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
I/O ports at 1860 [size=32]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 206e
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
I/O ports at 1880 [size=32]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 206f
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
Memory at d0544000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [58] Debug port: BAR=1 offset=00a0
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
Kernel modules: ehci-hcd

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=09, sec-latency=32
I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff
Memory behind bridge: d0100000-d01fffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000080000000-0000000083ffffff
Capabilities: [50] Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2070

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2071
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information: Len=0c <?>
Kernel modules: leds-ss4200, iTCO_wdt, intel-rng

00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 80 [Master])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2072
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
I/O ports at 18b0 [size=16]
Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2073
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
I/O ports at 18c0 [size=32]
Kernel modules: i2c-i801

03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
Subsystem: Broadcom Corporation Device 0465
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [58] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Capabilities: [d0] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
Kernel modules: ssb

05:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2074
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21
I/O ports at 2000 [size=256]
Memory at d0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: 8139too
Kernel modules: 8139too, 8139cp

05:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2075
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 16
Memory at d0102000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=05, secondary=06, subordinate=09, sec-latency=176
Memory window 0: 80000000-83fff000 (prefetchable)
Memory window 1: 88000000-8bfff000
I/O window 0: 00002400-000024ff
I/O window 1: 00002800-000028ff
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
Kernel modules: yenta_socket

05:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2076
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 22
Memory at d0100800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci
Kernel modules: firewire-ohci

05:06.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2077
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 23
Memory at d0100400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci
Kernel modules: sdhci-pci

05:06.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 0a)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2079
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
Memory at d0101400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

05:06.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 207a
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 23
Memory at d0101800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: r852
Kernel modules: r852

bash-4.1#
 
Old 07-03-2012, 09:24 PM   #11
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To your question, besides the wireless device all looks fine.
 
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Check the webpages to install the Broadcom 43XX firmware for your card:

B43-FWCutter
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.../b43-fwcutter/

Firmware
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.../b43-firmware/

Also, if your Broadcom Wireless card uses Bluetooth, you may be required to enable the Bluetooth adapter in order to use the Wireless functions.

You could also use the Broadcom-STA driver located here:
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.../broadcom-sta/
if the firmware doesn't activate your card.

Last edited by ReaperX7; 07-03-2012 at 09:26 PM.
 
Old 07-03-2012, 10:18 PM   #13
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I installed the broadcom-sta package from slackbuild and then tried this iwconfig command suggest by slackwiki, came up with lo no extention and eth0 no extension. I'm still pretty confused as to how to go about it with the other packages. I tried to install the cutter and it had some issue at line 49. Hm..

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Check the webpages to install the Broadcom 43XX firmware for your card:

B43-FWCutter
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.../b43-fwcutter/

Firmware
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.../b43-firmware/

Also, if your Broadcom Wireless card uses Bluetooth, you may be required to enable the Bluetooth adapter in order to use the Wireless functions.

You could also use the Broadcom-STA driver located here:
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.../broadcom-sta/
if the firmware doesn't activate your card.
 
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When you use the broadcom-sta driver you need to perform this action to test the module and load it:
Code:
modprobe wl
if it loads, and you have a UI based wireless configuration tool like Wicd, you can see if it detects the router you are using. If you can't connect (no network available) or you can connect but can't transmit data to/from your machine you need to enable the Bluetooth feature. Use these commands to enable Bluetooth:
Code:
chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth
Code:
/etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth start
If you use the Broadcom-STA driver you will not need the firmware or fwcutter packages at all. However the Broadcom-STA driver will require it be rebuilt when you install a new kernel.

The fwcutter and firmware packages are however more recommended to use.

The Broadcom-STA driver will be loaded at boot automatically. remember you MUST also blacklist the kernel driver for Broadcom support:

Create a file called:
Code:
/etc/modprobe.d/b43_blacklist.conf
and add these lines:
Code:
blacklist b43
blacklist b43legacy
blacklist bcma
blacklist ssb
Once the kernel default modules are disabled from loading the Broadcom STA driver will work as intended.

Could you post the output from the fwcutter build regarding line 49?
 
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Installing new kernel. Do I use the Core2/Newer Xenon for a Core Duo T2300?
 
  


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