peng, pengaol, & penggy w/ walmart connect
Hello LQ Forum Posters, My System:
My problem: I have no choice except Walmart Connect as my internet access. Yes, I know it is an AOL clone - HOLD the Lectures. No, I will not try to get IE on Linux. I am suffering from SEVERE MONEY SHORTAGE. I cannot buy new software (like another distro that's easier) I cannot buy new hardware (this pc IS the upgrade), including more RAM. I cannot comprehend how to burn an image of another distro. Even if I could, the only internet access I have is slow dial-up. NO NETWORK, NO DSL, NO CABLE. DIAL-UP, that's all - nothing else. Virtually impossible for a distro burn. Therefore, I must use peng, pengaol or penggy (or any other suggested program) to access Walmart Connect, so I can access the internet while I'm using Linux Slackware. There is very limited documentation on this subject, especially for users of Slackware. Yes, I have searched Google. Yes, I have searched LQ already. Yes, I have read the DOC pages associated w/ pengaol, peng, and penggy (and adjusted the conf files as best to my limited knowledge). Yes, I have read the HTML page from YoLinux on pengaol. Been there, done that. What I have so far: I have installed/uninstalled all three at different times:
Thank you for any support you can give. Please post actual commands, in chronological order. Do not make general statements. If you say to do something, remember to say HOW to actually do it. I have other problems, but the hard drive w/ Win98SE on it has many bad clusters and it seems to be getting worse, while the Linux hard drive is having no problems. And, if i can just get online w/ Linux, then I can probably post the other problems and get them fixed later. This problem is priority. |
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Whilst you have been specific as to your requirements, in order for someone to answer specifically they would require to have the same circumstances as you. As I live in the UK and we do not have Walmart, though Asda is owned by J.C.Penney, I cannot give you the specific answer that you require. However a hint at the correct direction might be. Go with either peng or pengaol, as they connect, then have a look at /etc/resolv.conf to see if you have a nameserver listed, if not contact your ISP for their namesever IP address. Or it might be that the authentication method used is wrong eg PAP rather than CHAP. Hope this non specific answer points you in the right direction. Samac |
You'll have to read the manuals for those programs, cuz I have no idea how they work or how to configure them properly. Indeed, '/etc/resolv.conf' is an important file that you may need to adjust.
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What follows is a little TODO list for you. I've included the actual cli commands i've put in, and i've kept my prompt in there too so you can see that I'm not entering extra things. If you're not sure which bit to type, come back and say so.
Step one, check to see if you can actually ping a website by IP: Code:
administrator@melchior:~$ ping 64.233.167.99 That IP was obtained via the host command (below): Code:
administrator@melchior:~$ host google.com Code:
administrator@melchior:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf I would say that generally, your problem is solvable, but I would like to ask you to refrain from the horrendous use of rhetoric - very few people here will ever just dump "RTFM" in the message box and leave it at that. We all do this because we're helpful people and have been, at some point, helped by someone (or more!) else here. If you approach this forum aggressively you will get aggressive (and short!) responses. Have a little humility and merely ask when you're confused. You'll look back in two weeks time and realise why you don't see explicit instructions for every little task, but I'll tell you now that it's because there is an assumption that if you've got this far then you know a few of necessities like cat and less and dmesg and at least know what a log file is, and you have some interest in learning more. It would anger a fair few people to be patronised in every post, so, take it as a complement that these assumptions are made about you =) I've given you some explicit instructions, but no one wants to repeat themselves, so extrapolate what you see here a little and feel free to link some threads that you've found that look promising, but you've as yet had problems with the specific execution of the tasks listed. Right! Hope that helps a little, - Piete. |
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Is there a LUG nearby? |
Thank you all, awesome help. I never would have known to look there.
Right now i'm on my in-laws pc... so when i get back to my own i'll check out the file in /etc/resolv.conf ... and then ill post it... who knows i might just fix whats wrong. here's a thought? could there be a firewall blocking the connection... autosetup by slackware? something along the lines of the inet super server daemen (dont know if i'm saying it right). yes, i have done some searches... i have used dmesg... cuz i read it in a book to do so... but i have no knowledge what it does or is.... i typed the command the way a book said to do so... the book was from the local library and it was for fedora not slackware (all-in-one, for dummies). i'm still a little hooked on the mind numbing e-z ways of win98, forgive me. |
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Slackware doesn't set up a firewall by default, as far as I know, if you Code:
ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.* The only ones that will be running are the ones with "x" marked in the executable bit (too longwinded to explain, but essential knowledge). If a firewall was running you would see something like this. Code:
samac@green:~$ ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall Samac |
Ok, back on my own PC now. Booted to Linux... now back to Win98SE to go online :(
here's what i got: /etc/resolv.conf Quote:
I have sent an email to the tech team @ Netscape Connect (formerly Walmart Connect), asking for the nameservers & IP . Havent heard back from them yet. Hopefully they will not give me the run around. I have seen other posts on other forums across the web... w/ people using Puppy Linux and successfully using Walmart Connect. But i cant ever download the penggy they use in a basic source code version. and i doubt they have the skills to tell me how to get it working on Slackware. BTW, every time i ping any IP at all (ex. 64.233.167.99) it says something to the effect that it cant and it quits immediately after. when i type: Quote:
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anybody know if and where the nameserver info is located locally inside my win98se partition... it's where i run netscape connect anyway, while i'm in m$ winblows :o
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Sorry, i'm going to get better at these posts starting now:
i was given a TODO list, and here are the actual results verbatim: Results of connection w/ peng: Quote:
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Also, I got an email back from Netscape Connect :( they only talked about the IP which changes with each log-on and log-off. They did not give any info on the nameservers :( |
Edited out stupid advice.
Sorry should read more carefully. Samac |
Are you aware the using a "font=3" tag on your signature makes it larger than the body of your posts? I checked this in Konq. 3.3.2, Opera 9.01, & Firefox 1.0.6; and it was true in all 3 of them. Posting your sys. specs. is a fine way to use your sig. block, but making it so large that it overwhelms the text of your posts & everybody else's is very very distracting.
Please consider removing said tag, or better yet change the "3" to "1". Thanks. |
I found something that might be helpful. It's called los-aol and is from linspire. It's a python program that at first glance seems to rely on penggy. I'm not too much of a python guru but this appears promising.
It has this script: Code:
#!/bin/sh Code:
$ cd /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/los-aol The linspire script assumes python2.3 but generally it should work with python2.4 as well which comes with slack11. We'll see if this is los-aol is way that could be gone from your output. I'd just assume that a distro such as linspire in fact needs to provide a way to connect to aol. |
I'll give this Lispire Dialer a shot.... but ummm well what if it only dials AOL and not Walmart Connect. What if thats the real problem all along - different nameservers. AOL has its nameservers, and they are different from Compuserve. What if Walmart Connect has its own. :mad: Tech people @ Walmart Connect will not give up the !@#!@#!@@#$ nameservers to me!:cry: BTW, archtoad6, is this signature better? NEWS FLASH!: Last night (all night) I found AOL's & Compuserve's nameservers and played w/ peng/pengaol to get them working. Guess what happened?!?! Both Peng and Pengaol quit working, and then Penggy started working! Weird. Anyway, Penggy now dials out, but now it doesn't show me a dang thing that it's doing. :mad: It does not report modem connect speed, and it still doesn't connect thru. |
results of Linspire's penggy app
The program failed:
I untarred the file... took the los-aol directory out from that and placed in the directory you told me... then in that directory i ran this: Code:
bash-3.1# python losaol |
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