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chaz_bro1972 03-31-2007 12:14 AM

peng, pengaol, & penggy w/ walmart connect
 

Hello LQ Forum Posters,

My System:
  • CPU - AMD K6-II, 500mhz
  • Total RAM - 312mb (including video RAM)
  • Video Card - Trident CyberBlade 3D MVP4, 8mb V-RAM
  • Sound Card - ESS Allegro PCI AudioDrive
  • Mouse - PS/2 w/ scroll wheel
  • Monitor - KDS Visual Sensations VS-7i CRT 17in.
  • Modem - PC Tel TAICOM V.90 Soft Modem (pct789)
  • Keyboard - Std. 101 key
  • Floppy - Std. issue
  • CD-ROM - Std. issue (Linux sees it as hdd)
  • CD-RW Drive - Dell HL-DT-ST GCE-8483B (hdc)
  • Hard Drive #1 - 10 GB (hda1) Windows 98 SE
  • Hard Drive #2 - 10 GB (hdb1 - swap & hdb2 - ext2) Linux Slackware 11

My problem:
I have no choice except Walmart Connect as my internet access. Yes, I know it is an AOL clone - HOLD the Lectures. No, I will not try to get IE on Linux.

I am suffering from SEVERE MONEY SHORTAGE. I cannot buy new software (like another distro that's easier) I cannot buy new hardware (this pc IS the upgrade), including more RAM.

I cannot comprehend how to burn an image of another distro. Even if I could, the only internet access I have is slow dial-up. NO NETWORK, NO DSL, NO CABLE. DIAL-UP, that's all - nothing else. Virtually impossible for a distro burn.

Therefore, I must use peng, pengaol or penggy (or any other suggested program) to access Walmart Connect, so I can access the internet while I'm using Linux Slackware. There is very limited documentation on this subject, especially for users of Slackware.

Yes, I have searched Google. Yes, I have searched LQ already. Yes, I have read the DOC pages associated w/ pengaol, peng, and penggy (and adjusted the conf files as best to my limited knowledge). Yes, I have read the HTML page from YoLinux on pengaol. Been there, done that.

What I have so far:
I have installed/uninstalled all three at different times:
  • Old pengaol:
    • Modem dials correctly
    • reports 56k speed
    • but does not connect thru (no browsers show any internet pages)
  • Peng - newer version of pengaol :
    • Same result as pengaol
  • Penggy (0.2.0):
    • Dials all the numbers super fast
    • Fails to initialize the modem no matter how i set the init string (i have the PC Tel pdf file to tell me how to do so)
    • Fails process, and dies. every time.

Thank you for any support you can give. Please post actual commands, in chronological order. Do not make general statements. If you say to do something, remember to say HOW to actually do it.

I have other problems, but the hard drive w/ Win98SE on it has many bad clusters and it seems to be getting worse, while the Linux hard drive is having no problems. And, if i can just get online w/ Linux, then I can probably post the other problems and get them fixed later. This problem is priority.

samac 03-31-2007 03:47 AM

Hi

Whilst you have been specific as to your requirements, in order for someone to answer specifically they would require to have the same circumstances as you.

As I live in the UK and we do not have Walmart, though Asda is owned by J.C.Penney, I cannot give you the specific answer that you require.

However a hint at the correct direction might be.

Go with either peng or pengaol, as they connect, then have a look at /etc/resolv.conf to see if you have a nameserver listed, if not contact your ISP for their namesever IP address.

Or it might be that the authentication method used is wrong eg PAP rather than CHAP.

Hope this non specific answer points you in the right direction.

Samac

H_TeXMeX_H 03-31-2007 11:11 AM

You'll have to read the manuals for those programs, cuz I have no idea how they work or how to configure them properly. Indeed, '/etc/resolv.conf' is an important file that you may need to adjust.

piete 03-31-2007 11:38 AM

What follows is a little TODO list for you. I've included the actual cli commands i've put in, and i've kept my prompt in there too so you can see that I'm not entering extra things. If you're not sure which bit to type, come back and say so.

Step one, check to see if you can actually ping a website by IP:

Code:

administrator@melchior:~$ ping 64.233.167.99
PING 64.233.167.99 (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 64.233.167.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=109 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.167.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=109 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.167.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=111 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.167.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=108 ms

--- 64.233.167.99 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 108.686/109.946/111.565/1.034 ms

I hit ctrl+c after 4 repititions of that; it will keep going indefinitly otherwise.

That IP was obtained via the host command (below):

Code:

administrator@melchior:~$ host google.com
google.com has address 64.233.167.99
google.com has address 72.14.207.99
google.com has address 64.233.187.99
google.com mail is handled by 10 smtp3.google.com.
google.com mail is handled by 10 smtp4.google.com.
google.com mail is handled by 10 smtp1.google.com.
google.com mail is handled by 10 smtp2.google.com.

But this won't work for you if your DNS isn't configured, which is why we want you to post the output of /etc/resolv.conf, where you nameserver settings should be:

Code:

administrator@melchior:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 192.168.1.1

I use a router, so don't have my ISP nameservers listed; using a dialup modem, you will need to do so. This is actually directly related to samac's post, with peng and pengaol, we need to establish what the situation is with your nameserver resolution (name --> IP resolution, like google.com --> 64.233.167.99).

I would say that generally, your problem is solvable, but I would like to ask you to refrain from the horrendous use of rhetoric - very few people here will ever just dump "RTFM" in the message box and leave it at that. We all do this because we're helpful people and have been, at some point, helped by someone (or more!) else here.

If you approach this forum aggressively you will get aggressive (and short!) responses. Have a little humility and merely ask when you're confused. You'll look back in two weeks time and realise why you don't see explicit instructions for every little task, but I'll tell you now that it's because there is an assumption that if you've got this far then you know a few of necessities like cat and less and dmesg and at least know what a log file is, and you have some interest in learning more. It would anger a fair few people to be patronised in every post, so, take it as a complement that these assumptions are made about you =)

I've given you some explicit instructions, but no one wants to repeat themselves, so extrapolate what you see here a little and feel free to link some threads that you've found that look promising, but you've as yet had problems with the specific execution of the tasks listed.

Right! Hope that helps a little,
- Piete.

archtoad6 03-31-2007 12:43 PM

Where in OK?

Is there a LUG nearby?

chaz_bro1972 03-31-2007 05:17 PM

Thank you all, awesome help. I never would have known to look there.
Right now i'm on my in-laws pc... so when i get back to my own i'll check out the file in /etc/resolv.conf ... and then ill post it... who knows i might just fix whats wrong.

here's a thought? could there be a firewall blocking the connection... autosetup by slackware? something along the lines of the inet super server daemen (dont know if i'm saying it right). yes, i have done some searches... i have used dmesg... cuz i read it in a book to do so... but i have no knowledge what it does or is.... i typed the command the way a book said to do so... the book was from the local library and it was for fedora not slackware (all-in-one, for dummies).

i'm still a little hooked on the mind numbing e-z ways of win98, forgive me.

samac 03-31-2007 05:33 PM

Hi

Slackware doesn't set up a firewall by default, as far as I know, if you
Code:

ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.*
this will give you a list of the daemons that could run and their permissions.

The only ones that will be running are the ones with "x" marked in the executable bit (too longwinded to explain, but essential knowledge).

If a firewall was running you would see something like this.
Code:

samac@green:~$ ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall
-rwxr-x--- 1 root root 102875 2007-03-02 10:32 /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall*
samac@green:~$

The book will be OK for the most part though I think Fedora uses system V init scripts and slackware uses BSD style init scripts, and they have a different package management sytem.

Samac

chaz_bro1972 03-31-2007 10:47 PM

Ok, back on my own PC now. Booted to Linux... now back to Win98SE to go online :(
here's what i got: /etc/resolv.conf

Quote:

search rokin1972.org
which is weird, cuz my screen name is rokin1972ltd429, but i think the 'host' is supposed to labeled either 1) americaonline.aol.com or 2) cs.access.compuserve.com

I have sent an email to the tech team @ Netscape Connect (formerly Walmart Connect), asking for the nameservers & IP . Havent heard back from them yet. Hopefully they will not give me the run around.

I have seen other posts on other forums across the web... w/ people using Puppy Linux and successfully using Walmart Connect. But i cant ever download the penggy they use in a basic source code version. and i doubt they have the skills to tell me how to get it working on Slackware.

BTW, every time i ping any IP at all (ex. 64.233.167.99) it says something to the effect that it cant and it quits immediately after. when i type:
Quote:

# host google.com
It says that it times out and the host is unreachable.

chaz_bro1972 03-31-2007 10:59 PM

anybody know if and where the nameserver info is located locally inside my win98se partition... it's where i run netscape connect anyway, while i'm in m$ winblows :o

chaz_bro1972 04-01-2007 12:15 AM

Sorry, i'm going to get better at these posts starting now:

i was given a TODO list, and here are the actual results verbatim:

Results of connection w/ peng:
Quote:

root@cs:/home/newapps/pctel/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-7# peng -c rokin1972ltd429
ATI3
PCtel HSP56 MicroModem Linux Driver K2.4.7.ÿ¿
Connection to access provider
Connection speed:57600
Stopped before connection
Results of cat /etc/resolv.conf:
Quote:

bash-3.1# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search rokin1972.org
Results of ping test:
Quote:

bash-3.1# ping 64.233.167.99
connect: Network is unreachable
Results of host test:
Quote:

bash-3.1# host google.com
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
Results of running daemon list:
Quote:

root@cs:/home/newapps/pctel# ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-03-28 03:25 /etc/rc.d/rc.0 -> rc.6*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1168 2007-03-28 05:34 /etc/rc.d/rc.4*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1160 2006-09-25 03:33 /etc/rc.d/rc.4~*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6782 2006-09-25 03:33 /etc/rc.d/rc.6*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2322 2006-09-25 03:33 /etc/rc.d/rc.K*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10023 2006-09-29 01:28 /etc/rc.d/rc.M*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14408 2006-09-24 22:33 /etc/rc.d/rc.S*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 466 2004-11-05 01:20 /etc/rc.d/rc.acpid*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1614 2006-08-04 21:50 /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1032 2003-02-01 21:47 /etc/rc.d/rc.atalk
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4178 2006-05-03 18:31 /etc/rc.d/rc.bind
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 2006-08-07 23:02 /etc/rc.d/rc.dnsmasq
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 119 2004-05-29 23:19 /etc/rc.d/rc.font.new*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1148 2007-03-28 17:56 /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1529 2005-09-04 07:57 /etc/rc.d/rc.hotplug*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 401 2003-03-05 15:28 /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8325 2006-09-20 21:48 /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3540 2007-03-30 01:37 /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3759 2006-09-20 21:49 /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf.new
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4477 2006-09-20 21:44 /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 497 2003-09-11 22:27 /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1924 2003-09-13 18:10 /etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 272 2006-09-25 03:33 /etc/rc.d/rc.local*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2007-03-28 03:25 /etc/rc.d/rc.modules -> rc.modules-2.4.33.3*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 25553 2006-09-01 03:31 /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-2.4.33.3*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2300 2006-09-01 21:15 /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2444 2006-09-20 22:05 /etc/rc.d/rc.nfsd*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5090 2006-08-16 15:48 /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2000 2006-09-21 17:07 /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 791 2006-09-02 01:14 /etc/rc.d/rc.samba
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1169 2006-05-27 15:24 /etc/rc.d/rc.saslauthd
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 967 2006-09-25 03:33 /etc/rc.d/rc.scanluns
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 687 2002-06-04 16:09 /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2895 2006-09-25 03:47 /etc/rc.d/rc.serial
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1222 2006-09-28 16:17 /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 860 2004-05-02 17:07 /etc/rc.d/rc.syslog*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1740 2006-09-25 03:33 /etc/rc.d/rc.sysvinit*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4711 2006-09-13 19:11 /etc/rc.d/rc.udev*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9453 2006-08-16 15:20 /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless*
-rw------- 1 root root 7320 2006-08-16 15:20 /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2323 2005-07-31 18:56 /etc/rc.d/rc.yp*
Hopefully that last one was the most helpful.

Also, I got an email back from Netscape Connect :( they only talked about the IP which changes with each log-on and log-off. They did not give any info on the nameservers :(

samac 04-01-2007 03:41 AM

Edited out stupid advice.

Sorry should read more carefully.

Samac

archtoad6 04-01-2007 11:19 AM

Are you aware the using a "font=3" tag on your signature makes it larger than the body of your posts? I checked this in Konq. 3.3.2, Opera 9.01, & Firefox 1.0.6; and it was true in all 3 of them. Posting your sys. specs. is a fine way to use your sig. block, but making it so large that it overwhelms the text of your posts & everybody else's is very very distracting.

Please consider removing said tag, or better yet change the "3" to "1". Thanks.

General Failure 04-01-2007 12:35 PM

I found something that might be helpful. It's called los-aol and is from linspire. It's a python program that at first glance seems to rely on penggy. I'm not too much of a python guru but this appears promising.

It has this script:
Code:

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/los-aol && python2.3 losaol&
cd -
if [ ! -e ~/.los-aol-startup ]; then
  nslauncher -m file:/usr/share/los/isps/en_US/html/AOL_instructions.html&
  echo "1" > ~/.los-aol-startup
fi

From it you can see correct install locations. To try it, you would copy the los-aol directory in the tar.gz to /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ then do the following in a terminal:
Code:

$ cd /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/los-aol
$ python losaol

Check/post the output to see whats happening.

The linspire script assumes python2.3 but generally it should work with python2.4 as well which comes with slack11. We'll see if this is los-aol is way that could be gone from your output.

I'd just assume that a distro such as linspire in fact needs to provide a way to connect to aol.

chaz_bro1972 04-02-2007 01:53 AM


I'll give this Lispire Dialer a shot.... but ummm well what if it only dials AOL and not Walmart Connect. What if thats the real problem all along - different nameservers. AOL has its nameservers, and they are different from Compuserve. What if Walmart Connect has its own.
:mad: Tech people @ Walmart Connect will not give up the !@#!@#!@@#$ nameservers to me!:cry:

BTW, archtoad6, is this signature better?

NEWS FLASH!:
Last night (all night) I found AOL's & Compuserve's nameservers and played w/ peng/pengaol to get them working. Guess what happened?!?!
Both Peng and Pengaol quit working, and then Penggy started working! Weird. Anyway, Penggy now dials out, but now it doesn't show me a dang thing that it's doing. :mad: It does not report modem connect speed, and it still doesn't connect thru.


chaz_bro1972 04-02-2007 06:33 AM

results of Linspire's penggy app
 
The program failed:

I untarred the file... took the los-aol directory out from that and placed in the directory you told me... then in that directory i ran this:
Code:

bash-3.1# python losaol
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "losaol", line 8, in ?
    from LApplication import *
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/los-aol/LApplication.py", line 2, in ?
    from LMainWindow import *
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/los-aol/LMainWindow.py", line 7, in ?
    from LPenggy import *
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/los-aol/LPenggy.py", line 1, in ?
    import pexpect
ImportError: No module named pexpect

any other suggestions? i'm open to 'em. really.


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