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Old 04-03-2005, 12:30 PM   #31
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I reality most people are upgrade fanatics and are not running anything less than slack 10. In fact they most likely are on 10.1, especially if they about to install gnome 2.10, so there base system is pretty current. Is there something special that your version change?
 
Old 04-03-2005, 01:48 PM   #32
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Originally posted by polgas
it is interesting to see 2 Dropline developers using slack (based from their profile)

as someone pointed out earlier, it is a matter of choice. i do not have any issue with Pat's decision as has done a very good job of maintaining Slackware for more than 10 years now.

Since Dropline only runs on Slackware, it's kinda a requirement.
 
Old 04-03-2005, 01:48 PM   #33
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I was just curious for a technical reason? For instance replacing the whole X11 package. Why? Do you guys add some patch or something or do something different that the slack version of X11.
I take it you missed the link that Paul posted?
 
Old 04-04-2005, 02:14 AM   #34
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zborgerd -- Perhaps this is OT, but I'd really like to thank the Dropline team past and present for putting out something that is really, really great. Without spending too much time driving down Memory Lane, a few years ago when I was a total Linux newbie, Dropline was a key factor in my being able to make Linux my desktop OS. On my Win98 box, I had all my Email on Pegasus, which I could not afford to lose. In my newbie condition, there was no way I could figure out to transfer Win Pegasus files directly to Linux, however, Pegasus could support exporting its files to Unix format, which I determined that Evolution could import. Sweet, the problem seemed to be solved, but Slack doesn't have Evo, so I was jammed again, until I discovered that Dropline could (easily) add Evo to my Slack install. The combo of a stock Slackware install plus Dropline gave me the Linux goodness that I sought. If it weren't for Dropline, I might have abandoned (or at least seriously delayed) my swtich to Linux. This was back in the days of Slack v8, and it has all been good since then. So I thank you for that. -- J.W.
 
Old 04-04-2005, 02:20 PM   #35
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zborgerd -- Perhaps this is OT, but I'd really like to thank the Dropline team past and present for putting out something that is really, really great. Without spending too much time driving down Memory Lane, a few years ago when I was a total Linux newbie, Dropline was a key factor in my being able to make Linux my desktop OS. On my Win98 box, I had all my Email on Pegasus, which I could not afford to lose. In my newbie condition, there was no way I could figure out to transfer Win Pegasus files directly to Linux, however, Pegasus could support exporting its files to Unix format, which I determined that Evolution could import. Sweet, the problem seemed to be solved, but Slack doesn't have Evo, so I was jammed again, until I discovered that Dropline could (easily) add Evo to my Slack install. The combo of a stock Slackware install plus Dropline gave me the Linux goodness that I sought. If it weren't for Dropline, I might have abandoned (or at least seriously delayed) my swtich to Linux. This was back in the days of Slack v8, and it has all been good since then. So I thank you for that. -- J.W.
Thanks for the nice words. We love hearing these sorts of stories.
 
Old 04-25-2008, 10:04 PM   #36
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Would the Garnome project make Pat V's job of building gnome any easier? From the Garnome site:
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GARNOME is a build utility that allows users to build the GNOME Desktop. Based on the GAR ports system developed by Nick Moffitt. It downloads, builds and installs the GNOME Desktop from the latest tarball releases. It also includes extra GNOME software to provide users with a comfortable and complete desktop environment.
 
Old 04-25-2008, 10:18 PM   #37
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Wow, a three year old thread back from the nether-regions of LQ.......

Look as far as Pat is concerned, there is no chance that GNOME will be reinstated into Slackware. GNOME tends to replace major parts of X11 and adds 'features' that Pat does not feel that need to be in Slackware. If you really want GNOME, see the Dropline or Freerock projects, or like you pointed out, try building it yourself with the GARNOME project, but I doubt it would make Pat's job easier, just more difficult.
 
Old 04-26-2008, 02:42 AM   #38
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GNOME is needless crap.
 
Old 04-26-2008, 11:20 AM   #39
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Hi,
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GNOME is needless crap.
Gnome has it's place. Widely used by a lot of people. I use it at times but generally fall back to KDE. I do use XFCE a lot on small systems.

You may feel that Gnome is 'crap' but not everyone else does.

BTW, I drive a Ford truck and I wouldn't own one of the passenger cars. We all have our reasons for our choices in live.

edit: I generally don't respond to old threads.

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Old 04-27-2008, 08:16 AM   #40
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GNOME is needless crap.
Support. Replacing everything in the system and not able to exist without PAM, this is all we get. More than that, their representatives support OOXML, so go GNOME, where you go, there is your way: change your licence to something proprietary and leave GTK alone, renaming int to Graphical ToolKit would be better.
 
Old 04-27-2008, 08:28 AM   #41
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Smile

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GNOME is needless crap.
I disagree. I think Gnome is a viable, stable choice. I'm presently running XFce on my Slackware boxes, but, Dropline Gnome is a solid choice for Slackware users. Each to his own:-)
 
Old 04-27-2008, 10:46 AM   #42
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GNOME is needless crap.
True, but KDE is even more so. If I had to use a bloated window manager it would be GNOME, which I did use for some time. I used KDE the first time I tried Linux, I hated it. I tried it later on, nothing new. Also tried XFCE, it was leaky and not unbloated.

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Old 04-27-2008, 04:14 PM   #43
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KDE 3.5.9 rocks!
 
Old 04-27-2008, 04:43 PM   #44
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KDE definitely is bloated on a slower system, and before I got my new PC I used XFCE. However, on a reasonably fast system KDE doesn't slow it down in the slightest, and is more feature-rich. I think KDE is a great DE as long as you have the hardware to support it. XFCE is a great DE regardless, but is less feature-complete. I also like the customizability of IceWM (fluxbox is alright as well, but I don't have that much experience with it), but they're better on slower systems in my opinion. I'm not a big fan of Gnome, but I can see why people like it. I still think KDE is more customizable, which is why I prefer it.
 
Old 04-27-2008, 07:03 PM   #45
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and leave GTK alone, renaming int to Graphical ToolKit would be better.
Doesn't GTK = Gimp Toolkit? Nothing to do with gnome except they decided to use it.
 
  


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