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Old 07-14-2013, 10:14 PM   #91
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Better late than never!

Happy Birthday Slackware and thank you Patrick.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 08:29 AM   #92
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I always considered the 16th of July to be Slackware's official birthday.

http://www.slackware.com/announce/1.0.php

Sent you a greeting postcard last week from the other side of the ocean, Patrick. Hope you'll get it in time.

Cheers,

Niki
 
Old 07-16-2013, 08:42 AM   #93
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Well, the whole year was a feast. We can celebrate the whole year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:36 AM   #94
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Nice to see Slackware going strong. Sad to see slashdot not. The vicennial of the oldest extant linux distro, this is not news for nerds? I scan them and the only Linux story I can find is about some tiresome person carrying on about potty-mouth on a mailing list. Hmmm, the day's not over yet I guess. Or maybe the real announcement date was E661 so this isn't the vicennial at all. It's easy enough to forge a header, isn't it. One of the many gotchas you get from this whole deranged "text as a universal interface" mania. Fortunately more enlightened minds are beginning to address the problem in other distros and newer protocols.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 10:03 AM   #95
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Intriguing post, thirdm. I have some questions if you don't mind.

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Or maybe the real announcement date was E661 so this isn't the vicennial at all.
I'm curious about the meaning of E661.

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One of the many gotchas you get from this whole deranged "text as a universal interface" mania. Fortunately more enlightened minds are beginning to address the problem in other distros and newer protocols.
Could you elaborate on the "text as a universal interface" mania? Which protocols, distros, are working to address it, and in what way?

Thanks.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 10:14 AM   #96
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Never mind whether it was the 11th or 16th of July. Shouldn't Slackware use the Discordian Calendar?
Hail Eris!
Praise "Bob"!
 
Old 07-16-2013, 10:24 AM   #97
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Could you elaborate on the "text as a universal interface" mania? Which protocols, distros, are working to address it, and in what way?

Thanks.
Well, isn't the new HTTP standard considering becoming binary? Like the systemd developers they know that if you want to read something you should write a program to read it for you, and programs speak in binary NOT text, obviously, since bits are the true universal interface. This is also why we no longer use paper books, but instead have created small flat oblong computers to read them for us. Of course we're not all the way there yet -- you still end up having to read an awful lot of text on those things even today -- but we're getting there.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 10:34 AM   #98
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This is also why we no longer use paper books, but instead have created small flat oblong computers to read them for us.
Nothing wrong with an e-reader; I really like my Kobo unit. I also really like hard cover books.
Slackware forever, man. The one constant in the open source ecosystem. I hope you're having a great July, Pat.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 10:47 AM   #99
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Well, isn't the new HTTP standard considering becoming binary? Like the systemd developers they know that if you want to read something you should write a program to read it for you, and programs speak in binary NOT text, obviously, since bits are the true universal interface. This is also why we no longer use paper books, but instead have created small flat oblong computers to read them for us. Of course we're not all the way there yet -- you still end up having to read an awful lot of text on those things even today -- but we're getting there.


Programatic interfaces are more efficiently expressed in binary. A single bit representing some condition or status requires far less space to store it and processing power to assign it and to interpret it than a text character or a word or a sentence. Parsing text has a relatively expensive computing overhead compared to mapping bits in a data structure. Text, on the other hand, is far more meaningful to humans, and is preferable where humans need to interpret meaning, such as when reading a book. Of course, human readable text in a computer is no less a binary coded representation of significance than is a bit-mapped data structure. In fact, that's exactly what it is.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 04:38 PM   #100
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Thank you Patrick.. Long may you continue!
 
Old 07-16-2013, 07:47 PM   #101
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Praise Bob and Volkerding! And hopefully another 20 years of Slack!

If Slackware14.1 is released this year, I think it would be really cool to release a special 20th anniversary edition of Slackware14.1, maybe a special DVD, one side would have Slackware and the other side would have the Arise! Subgenius movie.... Or maybe just printing the CDs/DVDs with Dobbs on it. Though that would involve permission from Rev. Ivan Stang - so probably wouldn't happen... Would be kinda cool though .

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Old 07-17-2013, 09:07 AM   #102
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It would have to be an extra DVD. The present ones have 32-bit on one side and 64-bit on the other, or vice versa.
 
Old 07-17-2013, 10:10 AM   #103
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Happy birthday Slack!

Thank you Pat and "xвала".
 
Old 07-17-2013, 04:28 PM   #104
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It would have to be an extra DVD. The present ones have 32-bit on one side and 64-bit on the other, or vice versa.
True, unless you can make a DL/SL disc.. I have seen such pressed disc. 32 and 64-bit could fit on a double layer disc, Pat would just have to modify the boot loader to ask the user which version to install, and other side would be a SL (single layered) disc which would have the Arise movie. Or yea an extra DVD would work, but Pat would still need permission from the Church and from Rev. Ivan Stang. I would so buy it though!
 
Old 07-17-2013, 05:05 PM   #105
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